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Martin Kellner

03-27-2001 13:29:22

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I want to change the trans. fluid on 1953 Super C before I run tractor under load. I read the book last night and it said SAE 90 oil (I believe). I have also read on this sight about Hy-Tran fluid. Is this also for the transmission? Which is better? Am I right about any of this? From what I read, it seems simple. Just 3 plugs; drain, fill and check. Any thing I should expect before I start? Thanks for all of your help with this tractor. If I knew how to do pictures I would show y'all what you helped me and my Dad do. -- Martin

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jerry gerthofer

03-28-2001 18:59:38

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Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to Martin Kellner, 03-27-2001 13:29:22

I got 4 c.s YOu run 80 90 weight In the transmissions

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Rick

03-27-2001 19:14:16

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Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to Martin Kellner, 03-27-2001 13:29:22

I like to put a couple quarts of ATF in the transmission and take it for a drive in road gear. Been know to disappear for an hour or more on these drives. Bring her home and pull the plugs and let drain overnight. Then I go with the kerosene. I use real clean drain pans for the kerosene because usually, the kerosene will still be clean enough to use in the space heater. ATF has a high detergent content and running the tractor in road gear insures that the transmission and rear end walls and covers will get a good bath. Good Luck

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Martin Kellner

03-28-2001 13:25:13

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Re: Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to Rick, 03-27-2001 19:14:16

Rick do you mean Auto Trans Fluid? (excuse the ignorance) Do you run it with JUST kerosene or mixed with something else? This sounds like something I can get done this weekend. Thanks for your help? -- Martin

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Rick

03-28-2001 19:52:35

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Re: Re: Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to Martin Kellner, 03-28-2001 13:25:13

Just throw a couple quarts in the existing grease before you ever start this process. It thins out the old grease some to help it drain, but mostly do it for the detergent. If tractor is outside or where its cold, it wouldnt hurt to put the torpedo heater on it for an hour before you go out and run it. Dont worry about letting it drain too long. every drip of the old junk you can get out the better.

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03-28-2001 08:21:30

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Re: Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to Rick, 03-27-2001 19:14:16

Good idea on the drive in road gear...I see I'm not the only one who can "untie the knots" listening to an old Farmall whine. They should do studies on the benefits of owning a Farmall! My wife thinks I have lost it.

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Rick

03-28-2001 19:54:31

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Re: Re: Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to FC, 03-28-2001 08:21:30

Not to mention how much fun it is.....Relaxing too.....

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Dave K

03-27-2001 18:30:48

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Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to Martin Kellner, 03-27-2001 13:29:22

The kerosene is a good idea. My C had congealed to about 150W and I took an old galvanized bucket and
heated the kerosene on a coleman stove OUTSIDE THE
BARN and poured it thru the tranny while the cover
was off until it was factory new clean. In fact, the original paint was still on the inside of the case. It looked great. Plain old 90W from TSC will work fine. If you have a PTO it takes about 5 gal. as I recall. Good luck

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Phlogiston

03-27-2001 17:07:57

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Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to Martin Kellner, 03-27-2001 13:29:22

Martin, another thing you may want to do after you drain the tranny fluid, is put in a couple gallons of kerosene. Take it for a brief ride and then drain it again. I got this advice straight from an IH mechanic and it has worked for me. After you drain out the kerosene, re-fill with Hy-Tran. By the way this cleaning method is not for the crankcase. You will be surprised at what comes out in that kerosene. You may even want to repeat the kerosene a couple of times before you re-fill with Hy-Tran.

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Norm

03-27-2001 15:29:37

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Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to Martin Kellner, 03-27-2001 13:29:22

Hy Tran will work just fine.

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Haas

03-27-2001 15:21:33

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Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to Martin Kellner, 03-27-2001 13:29:22

You can use either the HyTran or the 90W gear oil. I used the HyTran in my MD, but put the 90W in my C. The MD works fine with the HyTran in there. I don't think there is much difference in the leaks. I did put in several new seals though. When you change the tran oil, try to wait for a warmer day and let the transmission drain over night to get as much of the crud out as possible.

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Bill C

03-27-2001 20:01:07

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Re: Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to Haas, 03-27-2001 15:21:33

Haas is right,wait for a warm day(if you can)and maybe drive the tractor around a little to warm the old gear lube up some.I changed the old rear end oil in my 51'H on a 40 degree day without driving it or anything(mistake),The old stuff came out of the big hole under the PTO looking like black as coal(and pretty smelly)casing sausage,and it took 2 days to drain.When it gets a little warmer around here(Ohio)I will drive the old girl around some and change the lube again,by the way I used 85w-140 from the Case/IH dealer.

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CNRED

03-27-2001 14:44:50

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Re: Change tranny fluid in reply to Martin Kellner, 03-27-2001 13:29:22

Hello Martin. When I inquired from this board about changing the oil in my H, one suggestion was that using Hy-Tran might cause more leaks unless I replaced all seals (since Hy-Tran is thinner than 90 weight). Just a thought. I am sure more experienced restorers will have better info..

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