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Price of 3315 Power Winch for 1964 JD 350 Dozer

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Konrad Schiefer

03-12-2005 16:38:08

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I recently bought a 1964 JD 350 dozer. A previous owner has winch for it, but wants $2000.00 for it. It is a 3315 Power Winch ( shaft driven, self-contained hydraulic system in winch). I plan to use the dozer to build a pond and do some land clearing near some wet ground. What is a reasonable price for this winch and why. He told me it only fits a JD 350. Will it increase the value of the dozer by the price of the winch, or is the value and demand of this old of a dozer very limited. I paid $2200 for the dozer with bad water pump/radiator and potentially bad track cluthes and brakes. Not repaired yet, so unsure of exactly what I have. Any advice would be appreciated, as I have never owned or operated a dozer before and thought a winch would be good "anti-stuck" insurance.

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03-16-2005 06:03:11

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 Re: Price of 3315 Power Winch for 1964 JD 350 Doze in reply to Konrad Schiefer, 03-12-2005 16:38:08  
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I got stuck in the mud a few times last year using my loader in muddy areas and thought about getting a winch. I never got one, but one thing I considered was one of these Warn electric winches. They're not really ruggedized for crawler use, but they could be temporarily attached to the rear and only used when you need it to pull you out. Or you might even be able to weld up a protective steel box around it and leave it on. The most powerful one (as shown above) can pull 16,500lbs, which I believe is more than the weight of a 350 (i.e. it could lift a 350 off the ground). So that should be enough power for any sticky situation you might end up in. Also, they have optional tacklebox accessories which can multiply this pull at least 2x more.

I see the big ones on ebay selling new for ~$1000.

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03-13-2005 08:11:21

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 Re: Price of 3315 Power Winch for 1964 JD 350 Doze in reply to Konrad Schiefer, 03-12-2005 16:38:08  
I'm not impressed with those winches, but I'm biased since I was a Deere mechanic and had to fix many of them - sometimes over and over. Parts are very expensive. Deere often used the same winches on crawlers and skidders - and most of the problems were on skidders where 6-7 logs were being pulled instead of 1 or 2 at a time. As far as that winch only fitting a 350? I don't think so. It could be made to fit and 350 series, 1010s, 450 series, and small skidders like the 440s. I often come across them in the $600 - $1200 price range - usually sitting on the ground and condition unknown. Probably bring more if demonstrated to be good before buying. Biggest problems they have are internal oil leaks ruining the clutches and brake band, and hydraulic pump and valve failure. The winch uses a tiny little Webster pump - and once it wears a little - does not work at low engine speeds. Then the first thing to go wrong is - when the winch is hot, engine at idle speed - the winch will not free-spool and you can't pull the cable out. The brake (when towing or pulling something) is spring actuated, but free-spool requires 1000 PSI of hydraulic force to operate - and so does "winch" or pull-in mode. It would be easy to spend $2000 in new parts fixing a winch that has problems - so check before buying.

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03-13-2005 03:21:53

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 Re: Price of 3315 Power Winch for 1964 JD 350 Doze in reply to Konrad Schiefer, 03-12-2005 16:38:08  
Three years ago I bought a straight JD350 for $2,500. Rebuilt engine: $4k, new u.c.:$4k and will probably need to break down the finals again to replace clutches (tried to go cheap the first time and just cleaned up the old ones-dumb idea) ?$. So I'd wait awhile before I sprang for the winch. If it will only fit a 350 (?) for that money he probably won't be selling it too soon. As for getting stuck, you will always be fifty feet short of winch cable to the nearest (big) tree. The winches were used mostly with a logging arch to yard wood before skidders.

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