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Turn track pins???

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MrBill

03-25-2004 12:05:50




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Now my next question:
The wear table referenced "The 75% wear is recommendation for pin and bush turn"

What is meant by pin/bush turn? Are they turned 180 degrees? Or are they removed and machined? I don't know what they mean. Also, is this something I could do myself?

Awhile back I lost a track because I was working in the trees and when I did a hard right turn there was an unknown stump I was staddling and it forced the track off the sprocket. In the process of putting the track back on it gave me a chance to do an up-close examination of the track. I noticed the bushings were worn through in spots. So I know the bushings need replaced. Can I do this myself? Is an arbor press enough to work on these? What all do I need to do?
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MrBill

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Craig Smotzer

03-25-2004 19:04:33




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 Re: Turn track pins??? in reply to MrBill, 03-25-2004 12:05:50  
Hello, everyone is on the right track, no pun intended. Bushings wear when the sprocket hits or grabs the bushing and passes it on to the next tooth. You can prolong your bushing and pin life by keeping your rails properly adjusted and, if the get packed with mud or clay, cleaned! It is cheaper to turn your pins and bushings than replacing track chains almost by half! I sell undercarriage components and am very up-front with my customers by telling them they can save money by turning or even replacing your pins and bushings. The labor to replace the pins and bushings is the same as turning them, you have to tear the chain apart the rail link, by link, soo if they are too far gone, then better re-bush! My 1940 TD-6 has aftermarket undercarriage and I would love to give you the name and number of your local rep! The chains are not has hard too find as the other components since some of the manufactures use the same pitch and 1/2 link spread. I say that the price is not as expensive as you may think, as long as you don't go to Caterpillar or the other OEM's. If you can roll-up your chain and take it to an aftermarket undercarriage shop, then you are well on your way to big savings! Or, build your own pin press like that other guy, but the price for the 100 ton hydraulic drive motor can't be cheap, and would only be cost effective if you had a hundred buddies that own crawlers that may use your services. If you need any more info, just e-mail me Thanks Craig

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marlowe

03-25-2004 16:15:59




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 Re: Turn track pins??? in reply to MrBill, 03-25-2004 12:05:50  
it will take a 80 to 100 ton press to do this any less and you wont get them to move



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Sean

03-25-2004 13:01:57




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 Re: Turn track pins??? in reply to MrBill, 03-25-2004 12:05:50  
Mr Bill go to the web-link referred to below. It's a link to a post on redpower from a guy that made his own pin press. Unless you are very mechanically inclined, have access to a machine shop, and really, REALLY know what you're doing, this is a job best left to the experts. Replacing or turning pins and bushings isn't cheap these days, but funeral costs have been creeping up too. Maybe you can find a decent used set of tracks? Might be cheaper if you just want to sell the machine.

Good luck

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Lavoy

03-25-2004 21:21:59




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 Re: Re: Turn track pins??? in reply to Sean, 03-25-2004 13:01:57  
I use a 60 ton OTC track press and it would do 350's easily, in fact the 30 OTC is listed as capable of doing 350 rails. I tried to make a homemade press once, trust me, save your time and medical bills and take them to a professional track shop to have them done.
Check on your prices though, you can buy new 350 rails for about double what you can rebush your old ones, so if you have much rail wear, it may not be worth it.
Here are the specs if you want to check for sure.
New link height is 3.19", 100% worn is 3.00".
Pitch measured across 4 links, with track tight is 23.03", 100% worn is 23.51".
The other thing you may not be considering, is that turning the pins and bushings does nothing to eliminate "snake" in a track. It will be just as loose after turning as before, just shorter. At the price of 350 pins and bushings, I personally feel it is foolish to turn your pins and bushings, just replace them. If your rails are really worn, replace them.
Lavoy

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