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09-25-2003 13:28:10

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Had to take my Allis HD6 in because steering clutch wasn't working. $4011.55 later I get it back. Is this even realistic? 40 hours labor. $518 parts. Did they not know what they were doing or is this reasonable?

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09-28-2003 07:23:56

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 Re: Ouch! in reply to Doug, 09-25-2003 13:28:10  
I would contact another shop and have them give you an estimate on replacing the steering clutches. Get the estimate in writing then contact your states Attorney General. Have their office send you a complaint form. Fill it out with all of the information, along with copies of the original bill and the second estimate. They will investigate this shop if they deem that that the shop is overcharging for services rendered. Criminal charges could be one of the results. Don't put this off, do it as soon as possible so they cannot rip anyone else off.

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09-27-2003 07:54:12

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 Re: Ouch! in reply to Doug, 09-25-2003 13:28:10  
How do you spell stupid BOB? Duh.

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Roy in UK

09-27-2003 01:24:41

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 Re: Ouch! in reply to Doug, 09-25-2003 13:28:10  
That's what is known in Yorkshire, England as "Chucking good money after bad"

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09-26-2003 03:55:26

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 Re: Ouch! in reply to Doug, 09-25-2003 13:28:10  
YEEEHHHAAA!!! that sounds extremely high, lets do the math, $4011.55-$518 parts=$3493.55 for labor, $3493.55 divided by 40= $87.34 per hour, I'm not familiar with your machine but I havent saw the machine yet that it took 40 hrs to install steering clutches and on top of that $518 for parts sounds cheap I'd hafta wonder what they didn't put in.

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Oldfarmboy Jim

09-25-2003 19:39:35

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 Re: Ouch! in reply to Doug, 09-25-2003 13:28:10  
WOOOOOW!!!!! Sounds like you just put someone's kid through a year of private school. Did they provide an estimate before you authorized the work? PLEASE post the name of the shop so others can stay away. Jim

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09-25-2003 18:42:40

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 Re: Ouch! in reply to Doug, 09-25-2003 13:28:10  
this sounds way high! if they knew what they were doing it shouldnt take anymore than 8 hours per side. the tractor doesnt have to be split to remove the stearing clutches. they are designed like the old cats and IH dozers. the fueltank has to come off and then the top of the differential houseing. then each staring clutch is designed to be able to be removed from the machine without the disassembley of the finals or differential. clutches come out as a clutch pack and also the brake band is made to come out at that time also. sounds to me like they didnt know what they were doing and you were footing the bill for them to learn how to do the job.

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Joel Harman

09-25-2003 17:16:31

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 Re: Ouch! in reply to Doug, 09-25-2003 13:28:10  
The tractor has to be split down the middle to replace the steering clutches. This will take some time.

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09-25-2003 17:09:16

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 Re: Ouch! in reply to Doug, 09-25-2003 13:28:10  
first you have to learn that i don't care what kind of repair it is it will be 40 hr. shop time that is there magic no.about three years ago had a case 450 that i got from a dealer and they said for 30 days repairs would be 50-50 well the engine was put together wrong so i pulled it out left it there on monday morning and picked it up on thursday afternoon [4] days well they tried to stiff me for 40hr. and all they did were new sleeves and pistons and bearings[no head work or anything more]. so that means some one worked 10hr. a for four days on that engine? NOT. well after my lawyer get done it was only 15hr.i have redone the engine after that and did not have 25hr. for a compleat over haul and that was doing the head also.i never take any thing to a dealer and if i can't fix it i find some one to come to my shop but that has only been one time and that was for a 8v dd

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09-26-2003 02:43:38

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 Re: Re: Ouch! in reply to marlowe, 09-25-2003 17:09:16  
There's a lot to be said for buying a shop manual & having a go at it yourself.If a dummy like me can do it , anyone can!Hope it runs well for years.

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09-26-2003 20:14:14

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 Re: Re: Re: Ouch! in reply to JimInOz, 09-26-2003 02:43:38  
Hey let me do some work for you sounds like you are a SUCKER! I would of told them keep the piece of junk. Then they would of made a new bill Makes me laugh There are a lot of very stuped people out in this world.

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09-26-2003 21:16:15

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Ouch! in reply to Bob, 09-26-2003 20:14:14  
BOB! Now you have to remember a lot of people just don't know about equipment,the repairs needed,what they should cost. This doesnt make him a sucker or stupid! what is sad to hear is that there are thieves and crooks that take advantage of people who just don't know.

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09-27-2003 07:12:55

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ouch! in reply to clark, 09-26-2003 21:16:15  
But the real problem is that those crooks and thieves can be so convincing that when you are honest with the same customer that customer thinks that you are full and you're the one that can't be trusted.

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