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1030 Locked up

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Nedd

05-30-2006 13:33:02




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Well I had a good one this weekend. Last fall our 1030 locked up while running an auger. Sqeeled then stopped. No knock or anything. Thought main bearing, pulled pan and some mains all looked great (being overhauled 2 years ago). Next thought was PTO, pulled rear off and PTO turns freely and no shavings in bottom of housing. Lost at this point but then found that motor turns when clutch is pushed in. Is there a shaft in the transmission that turns with the motor but doesn't drive anything but the PTO? Can it be removed without splitting the tractor? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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R.Jones93

09-15-2006 06:37:54




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 Re: 1030 Locked up in reply to Nedd, 05-30-2006 13:33:02  
Nedd, Don't feel bad. We have four 930s on our farm and I've never heard of keeping the hi/low lever in any certain place while using in stationary. Hopefully someone will clarify exactly which position to keep it in so we both know. If you pull of the seat and deck you can get a good look at your gears. Once the deck is off put the tractor in neutrel pull off both shifters and then pull the cover off. When its off you can see your gears and shift rails.

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Bob/wis

05-30-2006 21:06:21




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 Re: 1030 Locked up in reply to Nedd, 05-30-2006 13:33:02  
Here is a few ideas. Does the tractor move if pulled, or does it seem to have the brakes on. If the pto turns by hand without it being ingaged is a sign the unit is good. Engage the pto and have some one hold down the foot clutch. Then try turning the engine over with the pto shaft. It takes some muscle to do this. If motor tuens over then you are looking at a shaft or gears or bearing sezed in the trans. May have vibrated into to gears at once. Also wher ewas the high low lever at. I heard they needed to be in high or low or they would not lube the trans and sieze it up.
Bob

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c hess

05-30-2006 18:57:09




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 Re: 1030 Locked up in reply to Nedd, 05-30-2006 13:33:02  
Apoligize for my post . I was thinking about our 1070 . Pistons are different.



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Joe - Kansas City

05-30-2006 18:40:41




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 Re: 1030 Locked up in reply to Nedd, 05-30-2006 13:33:02  
Was the High-Low range shift lever in gear when the incident happened? Dad had a 930 I used to grind feed when I was a teenager. One afternoon after school, I was grinding a load of feed when the tractor seized and died so fast it smoked the hammer mill belts, and broke the main drive shaft on the Owatona grinder-mixer. Turns out the range shifter is supposed to be in neutral when doing stationary PTO work. Something we never knew up to that point. That old tractor had been used to grind hundreds or even thousands of batches of feed without ever having a problem. Needless to say both shift levers were placed in neutral thereafter... The situation occurred too long ago to remember the mechanical details... maybe someone else here can enlighten. The point is your situation sounds very similar, so that may be a place to start looking. - Joe

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c hess

05-30-2006 18:30:03




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 Re: 1030 Locked up in reply to Nedd, 05-30-2006 13:33:02  
Dont think this your problem since doesnt seem like you are using full power. We were using ours on silo blower an it would loose power an stop than after cooling it was ok for couple minutes. Problem was cracked pistons at corners of valve recess in them . They were very hard to see Soaked them in gas -went to dinner an then when we cleaned them with air gas keep bleeding out of cracks an that is how we found them

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TexasWren

05-30-2006 16:26:59




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 Re: 1030 Locked up in reply to Nedd, 05-30-2006 13:33:02  
Just want to clarify: If engine turns when the clutch is disengaged, which clutch do you mean? Are you talking PTO clutch or drive clutch? If it's the wheel drive clutch, then it's not related to the PTO drive. If disengaging the PTO clutch lets it turn, then yes, there is a separate PTO shaft that runs down the inside of the clutch shaft. I'm pretty sure that shaft can't be pulled without splitting the tractor.

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Nedd

05-31-2006 06:26:44




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 Re: 1030 Locked up in reply to TexasWren, 05-30-2006 16:26:59  
By disengaging drive clutch the motor turns, and can be pulled around with transmission in neutral. We've figured out it is not in the motor or PTO rear housing. But probably in the transmission with maybe a selector gear or idler shaft. So should it be in hi-low when doing stationary PTO work? Thanks for all the responses.



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WBWi

06-01-2006 06:34:44




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 Re: 1030 Locked up in reply to Nedd, 05-31-2006 06:26:44  
This is a common problem with 30 series Cases.The range shifter should always be in neutral when doing stationary work. By putting the HI-LO shifter in neutral you should be able to move the tractor as one of the gears probably the LO range has seized on the input shaft.If this is the case then you need to replace your HI-LO gears and the input shaft.By the way I personally have never been able to get the gear off the shaft without cutting the gear off with a torch.

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