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Case 446...can this be put back together??

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agdodge4x4

05-23-2006 10:35:33




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I am thinking about putting my dad's 446 back together. He had torn it apart to fix a seal in teh rear transmission or something. Anyway, it never got completed and the transmission case was left open. The tarp has come off, and the tractor is in pieces in front of the barn. The gears in the trans are rusted, as is the inside of the housing. My question is, since all of the major parts are there, can i actually get this back together for a reasonable price? The hood is still over the engine (thought rusted a LOT), which had been rebuilt several years ago, so it should be good, drain fuel and oil.

Can i pull the gears out and take the transmission somewhere to polish off the gears, or do i have to replace the whole unit? If so, where do i find parts for this old thing? I have a manual, service manual, etc. Its such a shame, but it has a deck and three point hitch thing in the back that is very nice.

Any advice/help/tips are greatly appreciated. Im going to have to pull it out, and then literally dig up all the nuts and bolts and clips or whatever i can find in the ground. :(

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Triplerange

05-24-2006 06:42:04




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to agdodge4x4, 05-23-2006 10:35:33  
I'd try what Klyde says...and clean everything the best you can with some diesel fuel. Little surface rust wont hurt all that much. Drain the oil back out of it after the first cut, and put new in.



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agdodge4x4

05-24-2006 08:51:45




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to Triplerange, 05-24-2006 06:42:04  
Ill try looking at it and cracking the gears loose, and then maybe clean them with a wheel wire brush on a drill. Thats the only way they will even begin to come clean. I dont know how to clean the rust out of the gear case, like on the sides where the axles are, its awefully tight.



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Klyde

05-23-2006 16:29:47




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to agdodge4x4, 05-23-2006 10:35:33  
Replace the seal, fill it 1/2 full of sae90, slap the lid on, bolt it in, hook up the hydraulic lines, fill the resivor with 10w-40. get the engine running an it ought to go.



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agdodge4x4

05-24-2006 08:48:36




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to Klyde, 05-23-2006 16:29:47  
The gears are frozen solid with rust, and the inside of the case is covered in rust.



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Ken in AZ

05-23-2006 15:15:25




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to agdodge4x4, 05-23-2006 10:35:33  
Dunno how your luck is with tractors but in my case, I started off looking at Minneapolis tractors, since those have been in the family blood a long time.

Well, someone showed me a Case tractor that wasn't too far away and the price was right... that was Case DI with a loader. It needed an engine, so I got to looking around for a D with a bad transmission.

Found one in CA that was a Vineyard model. Problem was, that "parts tractor" drove off the trailer after an hour of tinkering... and after replacing a $60 bearing, it's been a good tractor since. So I found another one that used to be my Granddad's and hauled it down here. Come to find out, it was a DH and they didn't build a lot of them so it was hard to tear it apart for a parts tractor on the DI. Then I found another one that was a DC with a broken transmission housing. The engine from it is on the DH and the parts are going on the DH (since they're only a few months apart in build dates). So after starting with a DI, I got a DV, a DH and a DC. Lots more iron than I intended... but fun.

So it depends on what you're looking for... you may just find it. :) Helps if you're single or your girlfriend is into tractors (she's now my wife). Oh, and I live in the Phoenix area, so tractors are a lot more scarce than many parts of the country. Hey, it worked for me. :)

Doubt this helps but it's what happened in my case

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Walt Davies

05-23-2006 14:08:52




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to agdodge4x4, 05-23-2006 10:35:33  
Take a look at this one on ebay.com
Walt

7768900935



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agdodge4x4

05-23-2006 14:55:35




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to Walt Davies, 05-23-2006 14:08:52  
OK, i see.

Mine is not like that one though. I have one thats not quite at boxy. The hood and fenders are yellow and the rest is orange red. I cant remember what year it is, i can check the manual. I havent seen many like it on ebay.



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Ken in AZ

05-23-2006 12:35:29




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to agdodge4x4, 05-23-2006 10:35:33  
On something like this, you might consider getting a parts tractor with a toasted engine and swapping the gears and other parts from the transmission. The flip side is that it"s hard to tell how bad the gears and bearings are damaged in the transmission due to the water exposure.

My experience has been that high carbon steels (like used in many gears and bearings) has a tendency to rust quickly and in many cases gets pits. These pits would likely be problematic; it"s a place where wear is likely to be a lot worse over time. It might last a day and it might last forever. You don"t know without taking a look at it and sometimes without putting a load on it or at least giving everything a good cleaning and visual inspection.

If you"re going to rely on it, spend the time to get the right parts. Time is on your side; look for a donor tractor and get the back half, if possible. Then pick and choose the best parts and make a good tractor out of it. You might find that having a parts tractor allows you to reduce operating costs on the existing tractor, since you"ll have some parts you might not need to purchase as the tractor gets used and worn.

Hope this helps.

Ken in AZ

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agdodge4x4

05-23-2006 13:37:35




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to Ken in AZ, 05-23-2006 12:35:29  
Yes, that helps a great deal.

However, lets say i just need to replace the transmission...where on earth am i going to find that, much less an entire donor tractor?



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Walt Davies

05-23-2006 10:59:30




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to agdodge4x4, 05-23-2006 10:35:33  
If you are doing it because you love to work on old tractors and have lots of free time then YES go ahead and get started. If you are doing it just because you want an old tractor to look at and you plan on farming out most of the work then you better have lots of money laying around doing nothing. If the latter I would suggest selling it to someone who cares for the old tractor and would take the two or three years to get it running.

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agdodge4x4

05-23-2006 11:06:04




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to Walt Davies, 05-23-2006 10:59:30  
Well, honestly, i like to repair/restore anything mechanical, be it cars, boat motors, farm equipment. The work will be performed by me, except where applicable. However, once it is repaired, it will be put back to full use. Id like to eventually have everything painted. My question is, can it be done, and can it be done reasonably cheap. In other words, i dont want to spend more than half the cost of a new or used tractor to repair this one, especially since one of the reasons to repair it is to actually use it. Plus, it has a virtually NEW engine on it. The major problem i see right now is that the transmission is open, and the gears are rusted and frozen.

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hammer toe

05-24-2006 16:08:45




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 Re: Case 446...can this be put back together?? in reply to agdodge4x4, 05-23-2006 11:06:04  
ebay always got lawn tractors in pieces.. keep a eye peeled...



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