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Case VAC '51 Stuck in Gear

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David Oliver

10-17-2005 10:05:10




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Greetings; I�ve been scratching my head for a while trying to get the transmission out of 4th gear (lots of talk about this in this forum, but I have a different question). I took shifter plate off and carefully realigned the gears and tried to reassemble...I have been looking at various online and offline manuals and they don't show the shift lever configuration as to what is "true" neutral. I have thought I had it a number of times only to find that after assembly I'm still stuck. I guess I would like to know where the slides are supposed to be to be in neutral and where the shifter ball is supposed to be in the matrix. If you could supply a picture that would be great.

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Cases n Harleys

10-17-2005 15:47:39




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 Re: Case VAC '51 Stuck in Gear in reply to David Oliver, 10-17-2005 10:05:10  
You might want to turn the shifter plate up side down and look at shift forks and shift rods, You should find either roll pins or jam bolts that hold the shift forks in place on the shift rods, a loose jam bolt will make You pull your hair out. If You can't roll the tractor back and forth as Gary Cash stated, there should be a lock hanging on the side of Your clutch pedal that You can roll over and lock the cluth pedal forward allowing You to CAREFULLY reach inside and turn the input shaft of the trans if everything is in neutral You should be able to turn it,keeping in mind there might be a little drag on the clutch plate. Hope You get'er up and going, good luck. Jim Edmonds

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Gary Cash

10-17-2005 10:30:42




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 Re: Case VAC '51 Stuck in Gear in reply to David Oliver, 10-17-2005 10:05:10  
I don't have a picture to send but; 1. Assure that the gears are in neutral i.e., no meshing and you can move the tractor freely.
2. Center the shift lever in neutral in the pattern. This positions the shift forks so they can drop straight into the fork grooves in your gear trains.
3. Align the fork grooves, by hand, in your two gear trains to allow you to drop the two shift lever forks straight down into the grooves.
Good luck.

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David Oliver

10-17-2005 10:52:28




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 Re: Case VAC '51 Stuck in Gear in reply to Gary Cash, 10-17-2005 10:30:42  
Thanks for the encouragement; I need it (frustrated) I have done the steps you have outlined, except in step 2 they don't drop in straight, the offset reverse fork seams to be in the wrong position to allow the two main forks to move properly. The reverse fork is touching one of the forward gear forks. I don't think this is correct. Are the shifter rods supposed to be all aligned (ends aligned) or should one be offset (all aligned appears to be the best configuration because of clearances) facing the rear of the tractor or the front? The "ball" on the end of the shifter lever (in the gear shift cover) should be in the middle and not outside fork ears on the shift rods? Just so that we know that I have this part configured properly.

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Gary Cash

10-17-2005 12:26:01




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 Re: Case VAC '51 Stuck in Gear in reply to David Oliver, 10-17-2005 10:52:28  
David,
my answer was incomplete. This site should show you the answer to your questions.
http://imageevent.com/skipjack/vamanuals/group4transmissionhttp://imageevent.com/skipjack/vamanuals/group4transmission



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David Oliver

10-18-2005 04:55:37




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 Re: Case VAC '51 Stuck in Gear in reply to Gary Cash, 10-17-2005 12:26:01  
I would like to thank you for your help. When I examined the website you gave me, I noticed that I had the reverse fork in the wrong position. I put it in the same configuration as the drawing and it more or less fell into place.



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Gary Cash

10-17-2005 13:00:42




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 Re: Case VAC '51 Stuck in Gear in reply to Gary Cash, 10-17-2005 12:26:01  
David,
I copied a repair manual drawing of the tranny geartrains in the neutral position and highlighted the shifter fork groove positions. This will show how to position the geartrain for installation of the shifter forks. Send me a note at "[email protected]" and I'll reply with the tranny drawing in jpeg format.
The reverse gear is #50. 3rd & 4th is #7. 2nd & 1st is # 13 & 15 The shifter fork positions in neutral are shown on the link I provided in the prior message.
Good Luck.

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