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Mark Sc

09-06-2005 16:16:07

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Don, Watch what you say. Case is still in business thanks to some of its imaginative engineers such as myself. Good luck with the tractor in the field, great project.

Mark

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Don Rudolph

09-06-2005 18:36:20

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Re: Case Engineer Listening in in reply to Mark Sc, 09-06-2005 16:16:07

Mark,
Sorry to touch on a nerve, but I beg to differ with you. Case company at one time was the leader in corn pickers, forage harvesters, hay balers, grain drills, threshing equipment, plows, and usually had a strong tractor line that was designed in house. Case also was an industry standout in constuction equipment. They let their early advantage in these areas slip away through either bad management or lack of improvements. Case-o-matic was a public relations disaster. The Case powershift was one of the poorest on the market. Almost no mechanic had the ability to keep them from jerking. As for Case still being in business, it is only a matter of extreme luck. The benefits of the Case-IH merger never materialized. I toured the Case plant in spring 1985 and the tour guide bragged that they would soon be No.1. AND be profitable. The assembly line was making 10 tractors a day (about 1/10th of capacity they told us). Now after the New Holland buyout the local Case dealer is wearing only NH shirts. They are afraid of offending the NH side of the company. Look at most Case dealers and see if you find any Case heritage at their dealership. I bet you won't. Case survives as a relic of the past and mostly in all of our collective imaginations.

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Mark Sc

09-06-2005 19:42:02

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Re: Case Engineer Listening in in reply to Don Rudolph, 09-06-2005 18:36:20

Nothing taken personaly as I am fresh from college off of a Case farm.
My experiences have been working the bugs out of the auto guidance tractors.
Currently CNH is in the Black and has been for at least a year and a half I believe. CNH is a GLOBAL company, boasting being the worlds largest producer of Combines and Tractors. Supposedly one in five tractors in the world is a New Holland.
Right now the engineers are working with one hand tied behind their back as the parent company Fiat skims a lot of the profit off of the Ag side and puts it into their worthless cars, taking money away from reserch and development.
The Case-omatic was only a "public relations disaster" because it was not operated corectly. We run six case tractors with power shifts and only the four wheel drive is a rough shift, just like the case-o-matic if you rev it up and then shift anything is going to throw you into the windshield.
I agree that CNH has not "utalized" their heritage as they should. I feel the biggest problem with the company is in the marketing.

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SMitchell

09-06-2005 19:19:02

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Re: Case Engineer Listening in in reply to Don Rudolph, 09-06-2005 18:36:20

WOW!!! Thats an awsome job thos kids did Camboted. I hope you let us know how that "New tractor" works.,,, Question how is the front axle driven? Oh an our they gona try an modify other Tractor models to 4X4??

Don Rudolph both of the Local Case dealers In my neck of the woods are still proud to be case,, Of course they dont sell many of the lil tractors ( To much Ford/Fiat in them) Just recycle the older Case's but the bigger Magnum's are just as hot as ever,,they still have Case pride,,,,, ,, an Even the NH dealership says their NH Bigger tractors the equals to the Magnums an up our better then ever,,,,, , Personaly I wish in the 80s when Case bought IH, an NH bought ford,,, I wish Case an NH had merged back then an let Ford an IH just die,,, That way they would of had the perfect all around farm equipment company,, Havin the best Tractors an hay/forage/harvet equiment. Thats My Oppinion any way.

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Camboted

09-06-2005 22:52:36

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Re: Case Engineer Listening in in reply to SMitchell, 09-06-2005 19:19:02

The front wheel drive is taken off the sliding shaft. It was extended through the cover plate into an oil bath drop box to a 90 degree, 110 hp, "bush hog" gear box. The divining gear had to be moved to the other side of the box to reverse rotation. This then drives a Korean, "Calendo" 6X6 army truck front end. Since the sliding shaft is in constant ratio with the rear wheels it was just a matter of figuring out sproket sizes to get the feet per second the same on both front and rear wheels. Works great, but it is full time. The ratios were so close that we felt there would be no problem on hard surfaces.

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gary case

09-11-2005 15:20:27

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Re: Case Engineer Listening in in reply to Camboted, 09-06-2005 22:52:36

it's gorgeus!!!!! !!!!! !! my hats off to the kids and you. if i hadthe money i'd be sending my tractor right to ya. do you still pick it up at the door step and bring it back for 5000.00 all brand new? seems like you'd be busy just with that. good go'in, really. gary case

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