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Fuel Gauge Sender Unit

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Indiana Jerry

08-11-2005 05:07:34




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They gas tank (on my 530CK) has a Sender Unit behind the dash and wire coming out of it. But there's no fuel gauge.

1- How can I test if the sender unit even works, and if it does....

2- Where could I get a Fuel Gauge?

Thanks kindly in advance everyone.




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Joe (Wa)

08-11-2005 10:08:16




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 Re: Fuel Gauge Sender Unit in reply to Indiana Jerry, 08-11-2005 05:07:34  
Here is a basic gauge troubleshooting guide. Same thing John said with pix's. Fuel level gauges & senders in the 530 era were mostly the magnetic type on page 2.

Joe



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John T

08-11-2005 12:26:36




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 Re: Fuel Gauge Sender Unit in reply to Joe (Wa), 08-11-2005 10:08:16  
Wow, nice link, Im gonna save that fer sure.

John T



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John T

08-11-2005 06:08:03




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 Re: Fuel Gauge Sender Unit in reply to Indiana Jerry, 08-11-2005 05:07:34  
Neighbor Jerry, I dont know beans about your tractor but can lay a lil general electrical theory on ya which may or may not help.

SENDING UNIT: On most tractors, the sender unit in the tank is a variable resistor controlled by a float on an arm hanging in the tank. Its variable resistance may be from like 0 to 35 or 0 to 200 ohms as the float is raised or lowered depending on the brand. To test it if you placed an ohm meter on its "to gauge" lead and case/frame ground (may be merely the metal or may have a lil grounding terminal) and then raised and lowered the float to correspond to fuel level, the ohm meter should swing smoothly from say 0 to 35 or 0 to to 200 ohns or whatever ohms its designed for.

GAUGE: The gauge is a 2 wire series electrical device which receives its hot battery voltage input power from maybe the ON/OFF switch etc., but then receives is return ground path via the sending units variable resistor. That way the amount of current passing through it and its resultant needle deflection depends on how much resistance the sending unit is at any particualr level of fuel. For the gauge to work it needs hot battery voltage on its input lead and to see if it works/deflects you could momentarily dead ground (just brush/touch) its output (to sender) and see if it swings from empty to full. If it swings from empty to full when its output (to sender) is open or momentarily dead grounded, its likely OKAY.

NOTE the Gauge MUST be matched with a Sender of the correct resistance range OR ITS NOT ACCURATE. They are usually a matched pair from the same vendor cuz a gauge designed for a 0 to 35 ohm sender wont work right with a 0 to 200 ohms sender. Usually you either gotta get the sender or gauge from your tractor manufacturer so they will match up or else buy a matched generic set (gauge n sender) from an auto parts house.

COMMON PROBLEMS: Often if the gauge has voltage on its input but never moves BUT IT PASSES THE SWING TEST ABOVE (says gauge itself is okay), the problem is EITHER a bad/open sender or a poor ground (maybe the tank or sender isnt well grounded, common problem) or an open wire from the gauge to sender, or the float is bad and sinks to the bottom or is broke off its swing arm.

This help any????? ?/

John T Nordhoff in Bloomington, retired electrical engineer who usually lurks on the Deere pages versus over here on the dark side lol

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Indiana Jerry

08-11-2005 18:26:32




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 Re: Fuel Gauge Sender Unit in reply to John T, 08-11-2005 06:08:03  
Thanks a ton to all of you (once again)!!!

The resistor situation makes sense. I'll test to see the resistance since I just filled the tank. It might be hokey to get a fuel gauge seeing that I can just open the cap under my nose, but I figure these easy luxuries will satisfy me before I half to get into the brakes (which it needs badly) and Backhoe cylinder seals which leak at the shaft. I'm waiting for my books to arrive before sizing up the job. Then perhaps I'll try my luck at a cyclinder during the winter when the Backhoe isn't much use to me.

Once again - thanks ever so kindly.

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BKahler

08-11-2005 19:36:11




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 Re: Fuel Gauge Sender Unit in reply to Indiana Jerry, 08-11-2005 18:26:32  
Jerry,

For used parts contact Bill Wallace at 901-476-3137 (home) or 901-268-8065 (cell). He is north of Memphis and has a lot of used case parts including the construction king stuff. He's managed to help me out a bunch of times on the parts that I needed. My rebuild wouldn't be near as far along if it wasn't for him. Prices are very reasonable.

Brad

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