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David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start

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Michael S.

07-16-2005 19:44:36




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I am looking at an 885 that has been sitting for 2 years and cannot get the thing to turn over despite a good battery. I don"t even hear the starter click. This would be my first tractor and first diesel so could be rookie mistakes. Are there any safety switches, disconnects or tricks I need to know to start this tractor? Should the starter engage by just turning the key with clutch in? Several gauges and decals are missing on it so I am not sure what all the switches and dials are for. Any help for a rookie is appreciated:)

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joe e-tx

07-17-2005 05:43:05




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to Michael S., 07-16-2005 19:44:36  
right hand lever (gear shift) needs to be in netural.chltch does not safty switch (but push it down away)safty switch under 2" cap under seat.needs 2 gallons of fuel to start if out of fuel. does three lights come on when key turned on? left to right orange (hyd.) green (oil) yellow (charge) let me know
joe



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Michael S.

07-17-2005 05:56:46




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to joe e-tx, 07-17-2005 05:43:05  
Thanks Joe - I will check these things. What does the switch under the seat look like? Also, I do not see any colored lights. This may be b/c this tractor is missing the large gauge in the center of the dash There is one white light hanging from a wire under the dash that lights up but no clue what that is for.



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joe e-tx

07-17-2005 06:25:39




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to Michael S., 07-17-2005 05:56:46  
ok of light comes on with key i know you are getting power.sounds like tack is missing(no big deal).do you have test light or volt meter?,check for 12volts at big post on starter right side,then check for power or volts to single white wire on soleniod when key turned to start.DO NOT JUMP STARTER NOT SAFE....
joe



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Michael S.

07-17-2005 17:07:59




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to joe e-tx, 07-17-2005 06:25:39  
I got it started!! Thanks Joe. It turns out there were two wires near right floorboard that were cut - when connected, I could crank it over and she ran!

2 more questions if anyone knows:
(1) There is a small rectangular plastic box under the seat with 4 cut wires sticking out - what is this for and should I worry about the wires?
(2) How do you work the hydraulics? (Again, I am a rookie:) This tractor has a 3 point hitch, 2 speed pto, what looks like another smaller pto to the left of center on the back and a bucket on the front with levers mounted front right to work the bucket. There is a 3 position turn switch to the right behind the seat that reads something like External, Depth and Height at the 3 positions. There is also a lever on a semicircle base to the right of the seat with some writing I can't read and then a grey knob that turns just below that with a short foot pedal facing backwards just above the floorboard. If anyone can tell me what all this is for I would greatly appreciate it.

Also, where do you add hydraulic fluid and is there a way to bleed the system since the hydraulics seem to move very slowly when I guess right and get something to move?

Thanks for any help.

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Ritchie Leslie

07-18-2005 07:31:25




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to Michael S., 07-17-2005 17:07:59  
OK, Sir, welcome to the world of DB hydraulics. If you do a search on David Brown hydraulics on this web site, you will find several hundred messages that will tell you all you need to know. I strongly recommend you get a shop manual, which is available from several sources.

Check out the David Brown Tractor Club in the UK as well. You will find many hits if you Google it.

As to some of the questions you ask:

The depth/height/TCU control behind the raise/lower control for the hydraulics controls the mode of the hydraulic system. Leave it in "height", middle position, until you need to change it.

The umbrella shaped lever that moves vertically upwards is, believe it or not, the parking brake. It's often seized and needs freeing up. You pull it up and turn it to the right to lock it. If you get off the tractor and look at it, you will see the operating rod is connected to the brake pedals under the footrest. Or it should be - when I got my DB the thing wasn't hooked up!

And the rotary knob in the same area controls the raise/lower rate of the hydraulics.

When you change the transmission and hydraulic fliud, change the filter as well. The filter is in a big metal enclosure right underneath the tractor, behind the back wheels.

Sounds like your baby has been a bit harshly treated. I'd recommend you change the engine oil and filter, fuel filters and the coolant/anitfreeze before using it for any serious work.

Good luck..... .

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joe e-tx

07-18-2005 05:53:27




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to Michael S., 07-17-2005 17:07:59  
if i can rember all questions. wires most likely lights,tape up so not to short out.hyds.at front of shiftre platform 1 inch plug (1/2 rachet),on other side a black knob is dipstick.pedal right heel diff lock,semi circle lever raises 3 point,should be lever on left should be forward for PTO and to make hyds. work.if height,depth,external is in external leave it alone you need manuals for this. ask for elmer on this board for manuals,you will need them.hope this helps others in future.
joe

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Michael S.

07-18-2005 18:52:30




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to joe e-tx, 07-18-2005 05:53:27  
Thanks Joe and Ritchie! I did a search on hydraulics and printed a full Sunday"s worth of reading! I think Joe saved my life by warning against jumping the starter, which I was going to do before his warning (in fact she almost popped when I accidently crossed posts volt testing her); and Ritchie, what I now know is the parking brake is not hooked up to anything!! Elmer, let me know what you have for manuals to see what else I need to know. Thanks all!

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ritchie leslie

07-19-2005 08:41:52




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to Michael S., 07-18-2005 18:52:30  
Good. There should be a horizontal rod running from the bottom of the parking brake lever (under the floorboard) forward to the brake pedals. Either it or one of the pins at either end of the rod must be missing.

You should be able to track down a replacement at a wrecker who has DB's. I got several similar used parts from Fawcett Tractor Supply of St. Mary's, Ontario.



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IH in Waddy

07-19-2005 12:20:18




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to ritchie leslie, 07-19-2005 08:41:52  
stay away from the david browns!!! Buy a 684 or an 884 IH for the hp range you are looking for. David browns are junk and vey expensive and hard to work on.



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Elmer

07-20-2005 09:04:21




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to IH in Waddy, 07-19-2005 12:20:18  
I worked at a Case dealer for seven years in the 80's, and have been self employed since. Compared to a DB you could not give me a Doncaster tractor. They had to make them easy to work on. Always had to be into them. Clutches are crap, TA is crap, Shuttle is crap. Shift linkage worse than crap, engine has poor torque, front axle and steering falls out of them!!!!! Brakes are a joke, and who designed that emergency brake?

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joe e-tx

07-19-2005 13:17:19




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to IH in Waddy, 07-19-2005 12:20:18  
IH in waddy. well we all have our colors and this is the case/david brown board. i have a 995 db and a 1210 db both 30 plus years old,start and run just as good as any tractor anyone owns and learns to take care of it.this can be also said of my 6600 ford,2510 jd,445 long,1947 h farmall.this boy i will call him has found or got a 50 horse tractor with loader and wants to learn how to work it and take care of it and i think thats what this board is for.if he had found a case like you point out would you helped him???.
i would love to have the tractor he has found would make me a great rake and loader tractor and fit my trailer perfect.
joe

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IH inWaddy

07-20-2005 05:35:05




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 Re: David Brown 885 Diesel - How to Start in reply to joe e-tx, 07-19-2005 13:17:19  
Joe,

I worked at a case dealer for 15 years and I know how frustrating and expensive the david browns are. That is why I tried to steer him away from one that is in bad shape. The 84 sereis tractors are a breeze to work on and parts are plentyful and not as expensive as an english made tractor.Just fyi I like the american made case tractrs also!!! Not the english ones. Ih has some overseas junk too.

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