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How does your show do it?

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DI Guy

06-15-2005 17:10:09




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After reading the article on page 10 of "Antique Power" magazine entitled "Down With Tractor Beauty Pageants", I wonder how other shows handle this problem? That is, giving trophies, judging, & awarding prizes for best restored tractors, etc.
Our local club is into its 43rd year& we've stuck to our guns of "no judging whatsoever". Any old piece of equipment restored or not is welcome at our shows. How about others out there? What do you do? Are awards & judging ever a problem?

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JD 5020 guy

06-17-2005 20:10:42




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
Our local Antique tractor club doesn't do any judging either. And thats the way it should be. Unrestored or not is also a good thing for a club. Once in awhile somebody will bring a tracotor and rope it off. I just walk right by them without giving them too much of a glance. I get much more entertainment looking at original tractors running or not.



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Les

06-17-2005 18:55:49




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
"My show" has no judging, no prizes, no club and no rules, except that everybody should have fun. Anybody that brings something to exhibit gets a hat (supplied by me) if he wants one. Other than a parade in the afternoon at 2, we don't even have a schedule. Nice pretty tractors are fine but we especially encourage anything with "modifications" to help it do a farmer's work. And if it can do some work for folks to watch, like grinding corn or sawing wood, that's even better.

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Ron Kanouse

06-20-2005 12:11:15




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to Les, 06-17-2005 18:55:49  
I do not see what is wrong with giving out awards at shows. My wife and I rebuilt our family tractors from the ground up ,and we go to both kinds of shows and have a great time at both. It is nice to get a award for all the hard work that you have put into something that means that much to you. But that is not the only reason to go to any show. Both are good and I feel we need to have both kinds of shows.

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Dave Olson

06-17-2005 15:36:08




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
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It�s all about the memories for me. I�ve taken my tractors to a few shows and have a great time talking with folks about working with a tractor like the one we might be standing next to, when we were younger.

I do not have the talent to work on them, but it sure is fun to remember times when I was a kid on the farm over 50 years ago.

I put placards on my tractors telling the reader a little about the machine (year, model, hp ratings, quantity built, etc.). I also try to include information about the time frame of the machine to something we can all relate to, the cost of living! I think other folks get a kick out of reading what the price of things were when they are looking at my 75-year-old Case, or my 60-year old Farmall.

Dave Olson � East-Central Illinois

Ps: Our local club does not judge!

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900 Dave

06-17-2005 06:20:14




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
My club doesn't judge tractors it was never considered really don't know wy but it's my opinion that they should look how ever the owner wants them to look.If you like rust or shiney paint or a origional paint job.The tractor is the way you want it, so if there is a trophy available there should a regerstration for it if your interested.That way you take the chance of getting your fellings hert and nobody else .There isn't a ugly tractor any were so I wouldn;t give a trophy for that

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Leroy

06-16-2005 19:22:50




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
No judging at any of the shows I go to



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LPGASONLY

06-16-2005 10:51:05




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
No judging at our show. You might hurt someones feelings.
I am a can man myself. I let kids set on all my tractors so parents can take pictures of them. I use it for plow days and wagon rides ect. I even plowed the fence rows!! Shake the can and the wounds are healed. I've seen two friends of 30 years about to kill each other because one guy forgot to take off the soup can before starting. It fell on a $3000 paint job

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Irv Slagter

06-16-2005 13:48:18




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to LPGASONLY, 06-16-2005 10:51:05  
Had a couple near misses with a can (whew!) so I use a 20 ounce clear soda bottle with the top cut off on my 730 Case. It's almost invisible when you display it, and no dings if you forget. Ya got to wait til the muffler cools down a little bit, but don't have to put up with that clanging metal cover. :^)

Irv



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dctom

06-16-2005 08:05:23




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
I had a complete set of the "D" series case tractors, all of them were 10 foot tractors, if you stood back 10 feet they look real good' but what made me the proudest was they were all mine not better than new tom



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Jarod, OK

06-16-2005 07:59:50




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
Food for thought. Isn't it more original to see a tractor painted with a rattle can than one with an automotive finish? Read your owners' manuals. "Winter is a good time for maintenance and repair of your tractor-paint can be purchased at your local dealer." In 1940, farmers didn't have paint booths or clear coats. They touched the tractor up under the old Elm Tree by the barn. SO when I see a tractor at a show with 6' deep finish, I see NOT AUTHENTIC.

I do enjoy seeing these marvelous tractors with finishes many times nicer than factory, and awards for prettiest tractor are probably fine, but they are really not a necessary part of a true antique tractor show.

We have two shows a year. One is a working show with plowing, threshing, etc. No awards. The other is a parade, nicest tractor, just for show, with trophies. The working show is MUCH more popular drawing 5 times as many tractors and much bigger crowds.

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TripleRange

06-16-2005 09:37:10




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to Jarod, OK, 06-16-2005 07:59:50  
You are very right. Even today. I was just at the dealer's two days ago checking out the latest Case-IH. Sure the red hood's pretty, but you start looking at the axles, oil lines, and rear end and you see big dried drops of black paint all over. Let's face it...the factory's paint job was and is a 10 ft paint job. If it's authentisy we're after, we ain't gonna find it in the paint job.



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Kelvin

06-16-2005 07:33:40




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
In an old car magazine: The best of show winner was quoted as saying "My mechanic and I thank you from the bottom of my checkbook." that says it all. If this restoring and showing old iron gets to be a money thing, its going to hurt a lot of us little guys.



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Roger A. NY

06-16-2005 05:53:34




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
I am against judging tractors and I will NOT go to shows that do, as a spectator or an exhibitor. In our club we have a fellow that has really beautiful tractors and he pays people to do all of the work. He does not touch the tractors to do any of the restoration, just supplies the money. I know suppling the money is important buy I don't see why he should be rewarded for the 1000's of hours put in on the tractor when he didn't do it(Camboted). And no he doesn't work hours to get the money as he inherited it and does very little "work". On the other hand we have a couple of young fellows in the club that don't have a pot to pee in but they do ALL of their own work and it is nice. I think it is a slap in the face to these young fellows, whom we need to keep the collecting of ag history going, if Mister Got Bucks always gets a trophy or reward for BUYING all of his restorations. I will now get down from my soap box and I can only leave a penny, Brian, as things are really tight this month :)

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Arthur

06-16-2005 03:42:50




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
Along with oldest tractor, and most distance traveled, I would give an award for ugliest tractor,that still runs...When I see a nicely restored tractor, I try to make a point of telling the owner...But like they say, I don't want to turn it into a car show....



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L.C.Grey

06-16-2005 16:30:21




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to Arthur, 06-16-2005 03:42:50  
Well well let me tell you.... As a recent recipient of the "Ugliest Tractor" award given to a rusty, but very original straight and accurate first year of production tractor that was over 75 years old and still runs and drives perfectly, I'll tell you that ain't a good idea.

I didn't find out I'd won it (and 2 others)until later, because I left the show early. Probably a good thing. As mad as I got, theres no telling what kind of scene I'd have made had I been there.

I mailed them back their 3 awards, my participnats plaque and button and a little note of what I thought about them and their award. I will never return to that show again. TACKY... TACKY... TAAAAA AAAAA CKY!

To think someone would drive a couple of hours, burn diesel at $2.25 a gallon, and sling chain loading and unloading only to be insulted is just a pitiful way to treat a guest.

If you want an ugly tractor contest then let them sign up for it and decorate their tractors and compete for it.

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Camboted

06-15-2005 23:22:56




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
I like to see old tractors work but I also enjoy seeing them look like new. What is wrong with rewarding a guy who put 4000 hours into a project a little recognition? Why not a dual approach one class for restoration and one for performance? I've got two Cases Dc's that would probably win shows, but I didn't re-build them to show. I wanted to preserve the old iron in a like new condition. I will probably never get to a show since i live in Cambodia, so don't think I'M PUSHING FOR MYSELF, BUT PLEASE REWARD THESE GUYS WHO WORK SO HARD TO KEEP THE OLD STUFF LOOKING GOOD.

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JR(CASE38MAN)

06-15-2005 20:20:55




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
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When you start judgeing the fun is gone...I was asked the difference between a car show and a tractor show...My answer was a car show a car nut guy will spend all his time shinning and afraid to sit down because someone might touch his car...Old tractor nut is playing games with his tractor and telling big lies (pulling 8-16 inch plows with a RC) cooking and eating and just sitting back and visiting with everone...Had my first show past weekend and the picture above tells it all..DON HENRY IS THE PROUD OWNER..

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Brian in Ohio

06-15-2005 18:17:46




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to DI Guy, 06-15-2005 17:10:09  
I'm with a show that is getting ready to celebrate it's 35th Anniversary. We've never judged tractor, or offered awards. We were discussing maybe presenting a plaque for the oldest tractor present, and for the one which travelled the farther distance to come to our show. It is still in the discussion phase.

My particular opinion of judging is this. If it starts, then this hobby automatically becomes a battle of who has the deepest pockets. There would no room for fostering young kids to get involved in the hobby, because they would never be able to afford parts, or for theat matter, afford to purchase a tractor to restore. Common tractor such as JD B, Farmall H, and Ford N-Series would skyrocket in price, and the fun ends right there...

*Standing down from my soap box, and placing my two pennies on the box...*

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cleatusj

06-16-2005 17:39:52




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to Brian in Ohio, 06-15-2005 18:17:46  
I've never been to a tractor show, but I would like those that don't judge, as I think a tractor is for work. If anyone should be judges, let the public choose, peoples choice, most original with rust, hardest worked ( instead of ugilist ) and longist traveler. Just my .02 worth.



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L.Lamp

06-16-2005 19:27:13




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 Re: How does your show do it? in reply to cleatusj, 06-16-2005 17:39:52  
I have nothing against restoring any tractor to "like new" condition. When people use new technology, hardeners, clear coats, etc., The tractor isn't restored to new condition, but to better than new. That makes it "NOT ORIGINAL". These old machines deserve to look nice, but factory grade paint should be the bench mark. Anything above that should not be considered original and if judgeing is done points should be taken away for these kind of finishes. There is nothing wrong for a man to want a spit shine paint job, but he should not be allowed to call it original. These entries belong in a super shine category!

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