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JCL

05-16-2005 19:30:34




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Are Case loaders,dozers,backhoes,etc part of the new Case/IH/New Holland or are they a different company completely?




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Jack Henry O

05-17-2005 14:31:34




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 Re: Case industrial in reply to JCL, 05-16-2005 19:30:34  
I have an old Int 2500 That the clutch is stuck onit, probably rusted to fly wheel. I have driven it about 4 or 5 miles holding the clutch down,going forward and backward and its still stuck. Coule I squirt pennatrating oiile on and loosen it or WHAT> Need Help.JACK



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Jack Henry O

05-19-2005 15:40:07




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 Re: Case industrial in reply to Jack Henry O, 05-17-2005 14:31:34  
One guy said to pull it on black top, but I"ve driven it about 5 mi on black and dirt, It will start and run in gear, front or backwards. I will try Rogers suggestion of loosen the bolts and start it, Hope it works. TX JACK



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rgoramge

05-19-2005 17:51:26




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 Re: Case industrial in reply to Jack Henry O, 05-19-2005 15:40:07  
The guy's idea to pull it would probably work to break the clutch free because when you are driving the torque is being applied from the engine thru the clutch to the transmission. When you pull it the torque would be applied from the opposite direction (transmission to the engine). In addition, it will require a lot more torque to turn the engine over than it does to drive down the road. Try it with progressively lower gears and leave the switch off so that it won't start. Another thing you could try would be to drive down the road in 3rd or 4th gear and hit the brakes, but I think towing has a better chance of working if it is stuck hard. With either of these 2 methods you would of course be holding the clutch in while you try it.

The method that you said are going to use is probably safer in general but since you know that everything else is free, pulling it would probably be ok too because it would be no different than pulling it to start it.

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Jack Henry O

05-20-2005 12:25:06




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 Re: Case industrial in reply to rgoramge, 05-19-2005 17:51:26  
I sur appreciate the advise, I"ll try anything. I loosened the bolts and pried the case back about 1\2 in, Started it a couple times and messed with it ,But its still stuck. I"m gonna try to get something big enough to pull it. Can I pull it with the bolts loose or will that damage something. Its Heavy with the front end loader and big roll bar and wheel weights. TX JACK



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Roger (Mi)

05-18-2005 21:09:48




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 Re: Free up a stuck clutch... in reply to Jack Henry O, 05-17-2005 14:31:34  
There is an old trick to free up clutch disks stuck to the flywheel without causing potential transmission damage. Loosen all of the motor to torque tube bolts until there is 1/2 inch gap at the bottom. It's NOT necessary to totally remove them. Once you have a 1/2 inch gap, start the motor and push in on the clutch. The disk will immediately break free from the flywheel. Stop the motor, retighten the bolts, and you're good to go.

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Mac

05-17-2005 17:52:01




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 Re: Case industrial in reply to Jack Henry O, 05-17-2005 14:31:34  
JackO,
Try towing it in gear on blacktop?



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c hess

05-17-2005 13:43:07




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 Re: Case industrial in reply to JCL, 05-16-2005 19:30:34  
Just go to --- www. cnh.com --get whole story case ag\case construction\steyr\ kelboca\new holland construction\ new holland agg



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old_bc

05-17-2005 13:19:13




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 Re: Case industrial in reply to JCL, 05-16-2005 19:30:34  
I do some computer work for the local CNH dealer and he has the Case parts list for both farm and industrial on his computers. He can get any Case part you want. The dealer probably decides if he wants to sell them or not.

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JGarner

05-17-2005 06:41:04




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 Re: Case industrial in reply to JCL, 05-16-2005 19:30:34  
I believe I remember when Case bought IH farm tractors, they were going to combine farm lines and operate Construction/industrial as a separate division, but revenue would all be combined on Case/IH Corp (now CHN) bottom line. May have changed, but don't think so.



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Mac

05-16-2005 22:40:37




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 Re: Case industrial in reply to JCL, 05-16-2005 19:30:34  
My local CNH does (Scott Equip CO). I get parts for my Case 380B ind loader and the SuperC. They're in seperate buildings,though. Maybe they don't like each other.



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Glen in TX

05-16-2005 19:56:10




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 Re: Case industrial in reply to JCL, 05-16-2005 19:30:34  
I don't know but think they are part of it? Just know that most ag dealers won't order or sell you industrial parts because of liabilities or authorization BS. If you just give them the number sometimes they can do it but usually send you to a industrial dealer. Just got a New Holland News magazine today and it shows CNH Capital to finance it all? www.newholland.com/na



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