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tyler mostia

05-12-2005 17:29:48




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me (14)a IH collector with 6 and my friend (15)a ford/fordson collector with 2 were wanting to buy a case to restore it and sell it for some extra cash but my friend says that not very case collectors round and that it would not sell very well we are located in rayland ohio which is right by the ohio river are there many case collectors out there and are any of them looking to purchase a VAC or a VAI

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Emptypockets

05-13-2005 02:38:38




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 Invent a tractor challenge... in reply to tyler mostia, 05-12-2005 17:29:48  
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Worth reading... leading to a question. So you are 14 and your friend is 15... and wanting another make and model to restore. Well, I have something up my sleeve which I am getting ready to launch. You see, I get a few e-mails now and then and watch the forum page every day and ever so often and happening more, there are people in a quandry as to what is the best make and model to restore. Old iron good for restoration projects is getting harder and more costly to come by. Parts are getting harder to find (original, that is). More people looking for implements now to restore and pull in parades behind their finished jobs. Very young people, people in wheel chairs, kids in 4-H, youths, teens, 20-30-40-50-60-70 & 80+ year olds all want in on this very rewarding hobby. I have been prairie-rustoleum-gold-surface-mining for going on 12 years, I find I am spending more time in the junk piles looking for parts and implements. I keep finding all sorts of old iron... and wood. It come by mere chance that I happed one day to find something that really got me going and has now become a passion and I am getting it all ready to launch. But first I need input from all ages, boys, girls, ladies, lads, women and gentleman that honour this hobby tradition and preservation of our pioneer heritage. You see I came by a shop the other day and there was a little tractor, one like I never seen before. Long story short, it was made from a whole array of miscellaneous parts and pieces from all makes and models... it looks like a Case. Well boys, the owner told me he and some freinds were cleaning out the shop one day and one asked the owner what he was going to do with this old junk? The owner siad "scrap it, toss it, I don't know". Another fellow mused and said, lets make a tractor... six hours later they have what is now in front of the store. It lures collectors and makes them stop, and they kick the ground and leave knowing they have been had. But what really got me going was the owner said "well you know what I like about it is when people come here to get things fixed and they bring the little ones, the little ones play on it for HOURS, pull the levers, spin the steering wheel, climb up it, climb down it and generally imagine they are operating it. So the brain went ot work, and this is what I am up to... have a look at the little tractor pictured here, that is it, the little road side wonder. I took pictures from different angles. I measured it, lenght, width and height, I looked at what they used to put it together... I now have specs for a invent your own tractor! But there is more... You or anyone can scour the junk yards in your region, find parts and parts that look like parts of a tractor. Put your mind, imagination and heart to work and make a tractor of your own dreams... but you will have to follow the specs to enter into the DREAM WEAVER MODEL SPIDER I challenge. I am posting on my web page the challenge, just working on it right now. Its going to be cheap, if not next to free. Entrants (anybody, can enter) will be provided with a DWM Spider I unique Serial Tag and Serial Number from me. Then you go out and built it from your dreams. You will have one year to build. Then I will work to have state fairs, pull offs and rodeos lined up to bring the tractor regionally in for judging. The winner of the best contraption tractor will move into the finals and hopefully to circuit events for further judging and on to nationals and internationals (like the Calgary Stampede). The DWM Spider I, MUST NOT run, (stuck and ceased engines only accepted) does not have to be connected to a transmission... it just has to "look" like a tractor, have a few gizmos to twirl and pull, lights that work, fan blade that turns and so on. And an invented implement behind... I think the junk yards will be mined to full extent and it will be very interesting to see what old iron and wood will be saved from the scrap yard AND what people will invent. What do you boys think or any one reading this... will it fly? I am up for it because I have a ton of old parts.

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Tom Railsback

05-13-2005 06:06:45




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 Re: Invent a tractor challenge... in reply to Emptypockets, 05-13-2005 02:38:38  
If I'm not mistaken, this one sits on the north side of hiighway 2 in Chester MT, right?



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Emptypockets

05-13-2005 08:26:27




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 Re: Invent a tractor challenge... in reply to Tom Railsback, 05-13-2005 06:06:45  
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right you are... belong's to Scott, invented and created with his freinds several years ago. I talked to Scott and run the idea about the challange by him and may even hold the first judging at his business. he ok'd it but said I had to do all the work as he has a business to run and I am a free lancer. Sorry about the double copy of my preamble... but I can never remember which line to drop the picture URL in... this one should need no repeating. Where are you from? I am drafting the spec sheet on the Dream Weaver Spider I and would appreciate any additional ideas as to the paramiters that can be dreamt up to make this a very low cost and involved challange. The reason I called it Dream Weaver Spider I, is Scott didn't go for Scott's Baby... Dream Weaver comes from the many words written here on YTmag about peoples dreams and aspiration to hobby old iron, Spider comes from the fact a spider weaves a web to capture things, it choses to keep or discard, it has eight legs for bring in or passing outward... spiders are all over north america and the world, and I took a picture of one sunning itself on an old JD hay binder and am going to use him as my logo, nothing better to explain the whole old iron story than a spider sitting on rusty old iron... posting a picture of him here... will be modifying it later... did not see him until after I took the picture... was more interested in the old iron in the background and thought it would make a nice wallpaper... Some words on safety while looking through old iron piles... they are full of spiders, snakes, mice, hanta virus, sharp edges, nails in the grass, oil puddles, grease that jumps out at you and lands on your clothes, hard area in some cases as old combine engines are framed way under there... and fall prtection for climbing up looking for serial numbers... also... ALWAYS check with the landowner fisrt and get approval before you go in!!!

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Emptypockets

05-13-2005 07:43:42




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 Re: Invent a tractor challenge... in reply to Tom Railsback, 05-13-2005 06:06:45  
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right you are... belong"s to Scott, invented and created with his freinds sveral years ago. I talked to Scott and run the idea about the challange by him and may even hold the first judging at his business. Sorry about the double copy of my preamble... but I can never remember which line to drop the picture URL in... this one should need no repeating. Where are you from.

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Tom Railsback

05-16-2005 18:21:15




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 Re: Invent a tractor challenge... in reply to Emptypockets, 05-13-2005 07:43:42  
I'm from Great Falls.



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Emptypockets

05-13-2005 02:37:39




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 Invent a tractor challenge... in reply to tyler mostia, 05-12-2005 17:29:48  
Worth reading... leading to a question. So you are 14 and your friend is 15... and wanting another make and model to restore. Well, I have something up my sleeve which I am getting ready to launch. You see, I get a few e-mails now and then and watch the forum page every day and ever so often and happening more, there are people in a quandry as to what is the best make and model to restore. Old iron good for restoration projects is getting harder and more costly to come by. Parts are getting harder to find (original, that is). More people looking for implements now to restore and pull in parades behind their finished jobs. Very young people, people in wheel chairs, kids in 4-H, youths, teens, 20-30-40-50-60-70 & 80+ year olds all want in on this very rewarding hobby. I have been prairie-rustoleum-gold-surface-mining for going on 12 years, I find I am spending more time in the junk piles looking for parts and implements. I keep finding all sorts of old iron... and wood. It come by mere chance that I happed one day to find something that really got me going and has now become a passion and I am getting it all ready to launch. But first I need input from all ages, boys, girls, ladies, lads, women and gentleman that honour this hobby tradition and preservation of our pioneer heritage. You see I came by a shop the other day and there was a little tractor, one like I never seen before. Long story short, it was made from a whole array of miscellaneous parts and pieces from all makes and models... it looks like a Case. Well boys, the owner told me he and some freinds were cleaning out the shop one day and one asked the owner what he was going to do with this old junk? The owner siad "scrap it, toss it, I don't know". Another fellow mused and said, lets make a tractor... six hours later they have what is now in front of the store. It lures collectors and makes them stop, and they kick the ground and leave knowing they have been had. But what really got me going was the owner said "well you know what I like about it is when people come here to get things fixed and they bring the little ones, the little ones play on it for HOURS, pull the levers, spin the steering wheel, climb up it, climb down it and generally imagine they are operating it. So the brain went ot work, and this is what I am up to... have a look at the little tractor pictured here, that is it, the little road side wonder. I took pictures from different angles. I measured it, lenght, width and height, I looked at what they used to put it together... I now have specs for a invent your own tractor! But there is more... You or anyone can scour the junk yards in your region, find parts and parts that look like parts of a tractor. Put your mind, imagination and heart to work and make a tractor of your own dreams... but you will have to follow the specs to enter into the DREAM WEAVER MODEL SPIDER I challenge. I am posting on my web page the challenge, just working on it right now. Its going to be cheap, if not next to free. Entrants (anybody, can enter) will be provided with a DWM Spider I unique Serial Tag and Serial Number from me. Then you go out and built it from your dreams. You will have one year to build. Then I will work to have state fairs, pull offs and rodeos lined up to bring the tractor regionally in for judging. The winner of the best contraption tractor will move into the finals and hopefully to circuit events for further judging and on to nationals and internationals (like the Calgary Stampede). The DWM Spider I, MUST NOT run, (stuck and ceased engines only accepted) does not have to be connected to a transmission... it just has to "look" like a tractor, have a few gizmos to twirl and pull, lights that work, fan blade that turns and so on. And an invented implement behind... I think the junk yards will be mined to full extent and it will be very interesting to see what old iron and wood will be saved from the scrap yard AND what people will invent. What do you boys think or any one reading this... will it fly? I am up for it because I have a ton of old parts.

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LaLaLand

05-12-2005 20:00:50




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 Re: case collectors ??? in reply to tyler mostia, 05-12-2005 17:29:48  
i have a couple of Case LA"s so i don"t know that i qualify as a collector, but if i was you guys, i"d try and find something that the both of you agreed to restore and would probably stick with the stuff you have already worked on.



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Texas Denny

05-12-2005 18:49:51




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 Re: case collectors ??? in reply to tyler mostia, 05-12-2005 17:29:48  
I have a Case tractor. But if you are looking to make money by rebuilding a tractor, I don't think a Case VAC is the best choice. You want to select something that is worth an unreasonable amount of money when it is finished. I'm not a John Deere person. But I've noticed that JD usually brings more than a comparable tractor any other make. I'm yet to figure out any logical or illogical reason for it. Their parts are no more expensive so costs are about the same. And I've also noticed that John Deere owners are often a little wacky when you mention another make to them. Maybe the two issues are related.

Really, fixing old tractors is a labor of love. It's tough to make money doing it.

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tyler mostia

05-13-2005 07:00:29




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 Re: case collectors ??? in reply to Texas Denny, 05-12-2005 18:49:51  
the thing is that when we are all done we wouldn't be able to see a farmall or ford/fordson that we turned from a pile of scrap into a piece of history by owrselves we might even think twice about a deere but who knows, their also aint alot of deere sitting in the fields around here or at least not any that the owner wants to sell or wants to sell for the right price. i go riding around with my uncle, who i also got started up in restoring,looking for tractors to get but all we got is a 1/2 ton chevy with no tow package, although we do have a trailer sitting around we could use.

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