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shawnspeed

05-10-2005 10:01:14




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Is it possible to make a 730 gas series tractor a diesel by swapping parts (heads pistons,injector pump) . their blocks look like they will work. Has anybody done this? shawn




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Paul D

05-14-2005 17:34:51




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 Re: Gas to deisel in reply to shawnspeed, 05-10-2005 10:01:14  
Yes you can switch the gas to diesel, fairly easily. I bought a 930 with a bad block, the block I bought was a gas block 377cid, the counter bores in the top of fit my sleeves but the lower bores in the block were an eighth inch small I had those bored out and droped the sleeves right in. There is no difference in sleeve spacing between gas and diesel, using a gas block to a diesel is a wise idea due to the fact that there is much less stress on the top of the block in a gas tractor. hope this advise helps.

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DKase

05-10-2005 10:53:54




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 Re: Gas to deisel in reply to shawnspeed, 05-10-2005 10:01:14  
The only difference in the block is that the 730 diesel is 267 ci, the gas is 251 ci. The bore in the block is bigger so the ci cannot be changed. The 830 gas is 284 ci, and the 830 diesel is 301 ci. If you start changing gas to diesel heads the compression will end up different than designed. It would work, but premium gas can be expensive, and with the higher compression regular gas might cause it to ping kinda bad. Good Luck and let us know what you do. DK

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Jerrie Lott

05-13-2005 08:36:45




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 Re: Gas to deisel in reply to DKase, 05-10-2005 10:53:54  
I don"t know where an 830 would fit into the picture since very few parts from the 830 engine will fit on the 730 engine. due to the larger bore and the greater space center to center on the pistons. 930 heads will fit a 730 because the bore spaciong is the same just two more cylinders. Jerrie



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shawnspeed

05-13-2005 09:46:53




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 Re: Gas to deisel in reply to Jerrie Lott, 05-13-2005 08:36:45  
The reason for asking is I have done a little research as to the specifications between the 730-830-930 tractors ,gas and diesel, and from what I can tell, it looks that their is a large number of parts that would interchange.Yes , the bore sizes are different,but in a sleeved motor, I would doubt the bore spacing is different,as it is far more efficent in the production of these parts by a manufacturer to keep as much in common as possible to lower costs.The parts catalogs list rod and main bearings for all thes tractors as the same PN.,gas and diesel, the 730 and 830 have the same crank stroke,and I believe are interchangeable. my gas tractor has the mounting provisions for a Injector pump ready to go...The only area I am unsure of ,is the outside diamiter of the sleeves. The other clue is the only AFTERMARKET overhaul kit(For a 251 gas) is avaliable with a 4 1/8 bore which is the same as the 267 ? diesel listed in the 730 tractor, and the overhaul kit for the 267 is 4 1/4 ,and that is the bore on the 830 diesel...you sorta see where I coming from now? It has been a pain to find a gas overhaul kit, but the diesels are falling out of the sky, can find one just about anywhere ... The only place I have found the gas kit is Ag Kits out of NY. Just trying to see if it made sense to spend a little more money, do the conversion and have a-lot more tractor when I'm done. Shawn

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Joe (Wa)

05-13-2005 10:04:34




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 Re: Gas to deisel in reply to shawnspeed, 05-13-2005 09:46:53  
If you are in doubt re the sleeve o.d., why don't you send an e:mail to Agkits and ask them. I have ask them for crank journal sizes and they came right back with the ans. Seem like pretty knowledgeable people to me.

None of the other vendor's I ask came up with a positive ans, some just ignored my e:mail. Guess you can figure out where I bought my parts, 3000 mi shipping cost was worth it to get the right parts first time.

Joe

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