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Ed in Maine

04-24-2005 04:40:35

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I have a 1959 310B with L and BH and it looks heavy but I need to get it home! I and not sure that if I drive it onto my 16' car hauler (7-8K lb max approx, it is a "dead ax" trailer) that I may not get enough tongue weight? I figure that the tractor with L and BH weighs in around 7500lbs? Any thoughts on this? I am calling a few tow guys to get quotes on a flatbed carrier just in case.

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Dave Riling

04-26-2005 10:45:38

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Re: Drive on or back on, what is best way to trail in reply to Ed in Maine, 04-24-2005 04:40:35

I had to do the same thing a few years ago...I miss judged the weight of the case 530ck that I had to move about 100 miles. I rented a car hauler from u-haul and went to load the thing. being out of options at that time and having borrowed a friends dually I had to go for it. It was late at night and it was raining, I don't think I did over 25 miles an hour. it nearly sqaurshed the tires on the 3ton rated trailer. But we made it by the grace of God. wouldn't do that again

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JGarner

04-26-2005 14:29:09

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Re: Drive on or back on, what is best way to trail in reply to Dave Riling, 04-26-2005 10:45:38

U-haul told me their car trailers are only rated for 3000 lbs (1.5 tons). I can believe that cause most full size cars now are abouthe size of a late 60s "compact". I wanted to haul a 4600 lb SC Case from Michigan to Texas. Decided against it. If 3t is right I should have gone for it!!

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Ed in Maine

04-25-2005 10:25:49

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Re: Drive on or back on, what is best way to trail in reply to Ed in Maine, 04-24-2005 04:40:35

I am looking into having a junk yard hauler load it onto his flat bed. Other option is to rent a nice trailer with surge brakes, just found one locally for $50/day.

Forgot to mention that my trailer doesn"t have brakes either. After everyones feedback, I won"t be using my trailer to haul this one! Will post when I get her home. Thanks to all for the tips,
Ed

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scot_c

04-24-2005 19:53:46

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Re: Drive on or back on, what is best way to trail in reply to Ed in Maine, 04-24-2005 04:40:35

you have to add trailer weight to load weight before figuring if you're over it's rating. I'd pull it on, the back end is almost always heavier on a backhoe. Watch what the rearend of the truck does when loading it, when the back sets down just a little that's probably where you want it. The rear wheels will probably be somewhere near centered over the trailer axles. Too much tongue weight is a bad thing, the truck will want to wander real bad. Don't even bother with a single axle trailer either a tandem or a triaxle will be a lot safer. Better to have extra capacity than to be short on capacity.

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Phil in MI

04-24-2005 18:07:36

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Re: Drive on or back on, what is best way to trail in reply to Ed in Maine, 04-24-2005 04:40:35

Hey Ed don't make that haul with that trailer! First, the trailer is not heavy enough for that load.
Second, You should have 8 to 15% of the gross weight on the tounge, I dought that you can get that wtih that trailer. Third, most car hauler couplers are not adequate for that size load.
Fourth, if something goes wrong your friend with the Dura-Max may no longer be a friend.
Nothing is more fun than hauling tractors home.
Haul safely!
Phil

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Leland

04-24-2005 15:52:19

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Re: Drive on or back on, what is best way to trail in reply to Ed in Maine, 04-24-2005 04:40:35

ED on the side of safety and common sence I would rent an equipment trailer somewhere that is a triaxle that is a little much for a 16' car trailer you may spend more on tires than trailer rental

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Ralph NH

04-24-2005 10:54:43

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Re: Drive on or back on, what is best way to trail in reply to Ed in Maine, 04-24-2005 04:40:35

Just thought of something else..... If you trailer it home with the backhoe ahead, make darn sure you drop the boom and dipperstick piston down low so you'll clear any bridges! I speak from experience. One time I almost lost my IH 250 backhoe to an Interstate bridge, just because the trucker said "Naw, I'm sure that'll clear". You are probably smarter than me so I didn't need to tell you that. Good luck again.

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Tim Butcher

04-24-2005 06:55:27

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Re: Drive on or back on, what is best way to trail in reply to Ed in Maine, 04-24-2005 04:40:35

Hi! Friend of mine has a 601 workmaster ford w/l&bh, We hauled it home on his rollback 350 ford truck. It was all it wanted. ou'd probably be better off going on forward,You don't want excessive tongue weight. Gauge tongue weight by positioning of tractor as it goes on.. You can always take a 2/3 ft piece of 3"angle iron to prop loader bucket up. Good luck,be CAREFUL!

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Ralph NH

04-24-2005 05:44:27

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Re: Drive on or back on, what is best way to trail in reply to Ed in Maine, 04-24-2005 04:40:35

Ed,
Don't know if this would help, but a couple years ago my wife and I borrowed the neighbor's 6-ton-rated Hudson trailer and went to Minnesota with it behind my '94 three quarter ton Chevy pickup from New Hampshire. We hauled a small JD bulldozer blade out and came back with a '49 CASE LA with loaded tires and a hydraulic pump on the back. We DROVE it on the trailer. mostly because that was the easiest way to get it on there without it's own power.(The engine was stuck) It must have weighed over 7,000 pounds and it was all the trailer wanted to haul, but if I had to do it again I would still drive it on. LA's are heavy both front and rear. I don't know the configuration of yours but I'd load it with the heaviest half forward. Good luck to my Maine neighbor!

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Ed in Maine

04-24-2005 07:36:03

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Here's a pic of the beast! in reply to Ralph NH, 04-24-2005 05:44:27

Thanks for the tips. Propping the bucket up in the air to clear the tailgate so I can load it on farther may help. I just want to get the BH all the way onto the trailer, maybe even kick it to the side a bit if that helps get the BH bucket closer.
I have a friend with a '03 duramax diesel 3/4 ton (nice friend to have!) so the trailer is really my primary concern. Definitely Safety is first, if it has to sit in the woods for another week or two until I get my equip lined up, so be it!

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Tim Butcher

04-24-2005 13:47:18

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Re: Here's a pic of the beast! in reply to Ed in Maine, 04-24-2005 07:36:03

you could just give me the address and you'll no have to worry your pretty little head about it any more.....lol....

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