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gary case

03-16-2005 09:50:07




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hey i've got ice in my pto housug. wanted to try to adjust the pto, but had way to much oil in the case so decided to drain,pulled bottom plug and there was a few drops of water drip out, so i stuck my finger in and there was ice. what the hecks up with that?




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gary case

03-16-2005 11:32:40




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 Re: pto 411b in reply to gary case, 03-16-2005 09:50:07  
i got the ice out, because of this nice day. tried to adjust the pto like the book said,but didn,t do any good. tried four times. still no pto. sounds bad. my dad had it repaired once, mowed alittle grass and that was it. when i got the tractor,it would always run(pto) then it just stopped one day and haven,t messed with it.canthe rearend oil be going in my pto sump? there was one heck of alot of oil in it. i drained and flushed it out, now want to refill.(trans fluid) or what. help please!

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Joe (Wa)

03-16-2005 13:31:49




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 Re: pto 411b in reply to gary case, 03-16-2005 11:32:40  
I am pretty sure the transmission and pto are the same sump like the 311b. The manual states 17 qts for 311b & 411b, my 311b holds over 5 gals. Original oil was SAE 90

Joe



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GARY CASE

03-17-2005 10:51:46




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 Re: pto 411b in reply to Joe (Wa), 03-16-2005 13:31:49  
YES THATS WHAT THE PARTS BOOK SAYS ALSO.(BUT) THE OPS MANUAL SAYS 1QT OF TYPE A TRANS FLUID IN THE SUMP OF THE PTO. WHEN CHANGING THE OILS BEFORE I JUST PUT 90 WAIT IN. WHEN I PULLED THE PLUG IT WAS WAY FULL OF OIL,LIKE THREE QUARTS ID SAY IN THE PTO SUMP.GOT ME ALL CONFUSED. COURCE THAT DOESNT TAKE MUCH NOWADAYS.



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Joe (Wa)

03-17-2005 12:36:30




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 Re: pto 411b in reply to GARY CASE, 03-17-2005 10:51:46  
Yea I see what you mean now. You have the independent pto with separate sump. I don't know how you could get water in there other than condensation or possibly there is water in the transmission oil and it has leaked back through the main driveshaft rear oil seal.

In parts manual A377 page 112 shows the main driveshaft rear seal G13802. The pto drive shaft passes through the transmission inside the main drive shaft so that is the only place I can see that it would leak.

My 300B-400B service manual does not cover the pto but does cover the main driveshaft rear seal. If you have this manual check page E-16.

Joe

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gary case

03-17-2005 12:41:54




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 Re: pto 411b in reply to Joe (Wa), 03-17-2005 12:36:30  
thanks joe. i'm going to go with the book. if it doesnt work when i put oil in it then i'llhave to remove it and get it fixed.



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Joe (Wa)

03-16-2005 11:27:59




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 Re: pto 411b in reply to gary case, 03-16-2005 09:50:07  
It is probably accumulated rain water. I've seen them with a gal or more water from sitting out in the weather. Most likely the shifter boot is deteriorated.

Joe



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gary case

03-16-2005 11:36:06




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 Re: pto 411b in reply to Joe (Wa), 03-16-2005 11:27:59  
thanx joe



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