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Case 511-B-L Oil filter

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Frank R.

03-01-2005 19:19:23




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My Case appears to have a "lube bypass filter" Could someone explain what this means. The oil feed from the pump does not seem to enter the center feed hole of the filter, so it "bypasses" it. As the engine warms up the filter stays cold but I have oil pressure. I think I might have the C164 engine. All the filters I have looked at such as Fram C159 or Case A36136 the center nozzle does not go into the center section of the filter by a good distance. The above filter numbers do screw right into the filter housing correctly.

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Frank R

03-02-2005 08:52:01




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 Re: Case 511-B-L Oil filter in reply to Frank R., 03-01-2005 19:19:23  
I just got home and took the whole mount off and looked at it close. In my case the center hole does not have any threads. It looks like it must have been a press fit because there is a shoulder down in the hole. Could you tell me the length and diameter of the feed tube?

I am trying to figure out how to paste the image of my housing into the message.



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Joe (Wa)

03-02-2005 11:01:50




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 Re: Case 511-B-L Oil filter in reply to Frank R, 03-02-2005 08:52:01  
Here are the sizes from a new one I bought from a Case dealer about 5 years ago. It was listed for VA & number series tractors up to 600, among others. Stem tube is 0.24" OD x 3-3/4"L above press shoulder. Add for the depth of your socket, about �� if I remember right. You can use �� soft drawn tubing or similar, sand down the end for interference fit in the socket if needed. There is not much differential pressure there, doesn�t have to be too tight.

Three orifices (measured � 0.002"): one @ vertical top of tube 0.081". 5/16" down from top of tube and 180� apart 2 @ 0.093". These dimensions correspond to numbered drill bit sizes. The hole sizes are not critical. The total area of the 3 holes exceeds the cross-sectional area of the tube I.D. so they are used as directors, as opposed to orifices or restrictors, to saturate the top of the filter media.

There are a couple of different type housings, yours may have a bypass valve in it. The seal may be in the base of the housing or come with the filter and seat on the base above the threads like the one in the pix. Most major filter manufacturer�s make a suitable substitute filter. I use Napa 1104 most of the time, it comes with seal and will fits either of the base types I have.

Joe

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Frank R (MI)

03-03-2005 14:16:44




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 Re: Case 511-B-L Oil filter in reply to Joe (Wa), 03-02-2005 11:01:50  
Thanks alot Joe. This was real helpful. I should be getting my manual next week on this tractor. I will be going to the Case IH dealer on Sat. I will see if they have one. If not I have found some tubing that is just the right size. I still have to figure out how to post a picture on this site. I will try it out this weekend by linking to the message.



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Joe (Wa)

03-01-2005 23:39:43




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 Re: Case 511-B-L Oil filter in reply to Frank R., 03-01-2005 19:19:23  
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The by-pass filter is a shunt system, typically 10-15% of the oil pump output passes through the filter and drops directly back into the sump. The rest of the oil pump output provides engine lubrication.

If you are using Case filter A36136, it has a "mason jar" external rolled thread. You should have a rubber seal in the housing that the filter seats on.

Does your hsg look similar to the pix? If the stem tube is missing the oil going to the filter is just dropping back into the sump w/o going through the filter media.

Joe

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Frank R

03-02-2005 07:32:57




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 Re: Case 511-B-L Oil filter in reply to Joe (Wa), 03-01-2005 23:39:43  
I can see the picture now. the base of mine looks like this but I do not have a tall stem like in the picture. I will post a picture later and check to see if I have threads to put in a stem.



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Frank R.

03-02-2005 07:02:26




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 Re: Case 511-B-L Oil filter in reply to Joe (Wa), 03-01-2005 23:39:43  
I cant see the picture. It is a little box with an "x" in it. I will attempt to post a picture of my filter mount via link later today. Or you might try a link instead. Thanks



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