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need advice on my case 300 3point hookup

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bill schoepf

02-18-2005 19:36:23




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hello..i have a case 300 with a 3point hookup. but when i hook up my disc or plow i can lower it and it only goes to groung level, it will not go lower so that i can plow or disc,, is there an adjustment or ?? that i am missing that keeps me from being able to lower it enough to use?? any suggustions or help would be appreciated.
i am in the northwest arkansas area.




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HobbyFarmerInWI

02-19-2005 17:26:38




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 Re: need advice on my case 300 3point hookup in reply to bill schoepf, 02-18-2005 19:36:23  
Mine did the exact same thing, and the cause was very low on fluid. Filled it to where it should be, and all is well. Once my bucket would not come down, and again it was low on fluid.



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Joe (Wa)

02-19-2005 17:40:01




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 Re: need advice on my case 300 3point hookup in reply to HobbyFarmerInWI, 02-19-2005 17:26:38  
The reason it won't lower in that case is because the pump is not putting out enough pressure to move the interlock block spool far enough to uncover the oil return port. The loader or hitch remains in a hydraulic lock just as if you had just off the engine.

Hopefully Bill has checked his oil level.

Joe



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HobbyFarmerInWI

02-19-2005 19:41:45




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 Re: need advice on my case 300 3point hookup in reply to Joe (Wa), 02-19-2005 17:40:01  
Thanks, I knew how to fix it in my case, but had no idea as to what was really going on!



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Case930

02-19-2005 15:57:15




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 Re: need advice on my case 300 3point hookup in reply to bill schoepf, 02-18-2005 19:36:23  
Hi Bill I have some very good repair books for this. I had a lot of case tractors befor I moved last year and sold them. I had a 311 round nose good tractor. I live in Fayetteville AR where do you live in AR. Here are some things you might look for. I can make copeys of this for you to there are a lot of good brake downs and pictures in these books.

1 Lower return ball in right hand head is off its sembled.

2 Return ball check spring reversed when assembled

3wrong lower auxiliary spool installed in right hand head (spool too long so ball cannot seat.)

Down pressure relief valve ball in right hand head is off its seat.

Hydraulic float ball in right hand head is off its seat.

That is some stuf to look at if you have nevery work on Hydraulics befor I have full brake downs with pictures I can mail to you or if you dont live to far you can stop by some time and I will show you my car collicton. Thanks Nick Hope this helps!

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John Saeli

02-19-2005 05:50:51




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 Re: need advice on my case 300 3point hookup in reply to bill schoepf, 02-18-2005 19:36:23  
Hey Bill: Have you looked close to make sure the implement is not hitting the drawbar?



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bill schoepf

02-19-2005 07:54:54




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 Re: need advice on my case 300 3point hookup in reply to John Saeli, 02-19-2005 05:50:51  
john thanks for the quick reply,, it is not hitting on the drawbar. as it is now,i have to stand on the 3 point with my 200 lbs weight to even make it go down to hook onto the plow, there must be some sort of release valve/adjustment to allow it to go down.
the left side is staionary, right side adjusts.
near on the right side, are the words (height/depth/external) with what looks like a 3/4" bolt head, do not know what this is for or if it is connected to my problem or not. again thank you for your interest and help. bill

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Joe (Wa)

02-19-2005 09:47:39




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 Re: need advice on my case 300 3point hookup in reply to bill schoepf, 02-19-2005 07:54:54  
Both draft arms on the Eagle hitch are height adjustable, do you have something other than the factory hitch?

Have you checked the return hyd filter, seems like it would almost have to break down and plug the passageway to cause a problem like that.

Also the spool in the interlock block on the side of the control valve may be stuck or not traveling far enough to uncover the return hole. You can put a gauge in the after plug on the interlock block, with engine running full speed and with hitch lever in down position press should not exceed 75 psi, more desirable is 0 - 25 psi. Spool travel in the return direction can be increased by adding copper washer on the cap on the back. That should not be necessary unless the spool has been changed. The spool should be free to travel in the bore under its own weight, to check that you will have to remove the interlock block from the control valve.

Has the interlock block been changed or repaired?

Can you describe the location of this a little better "near on the right side, are the words (height/depth/external) with what looks like a 3/4" bolt head". That is new to me.

Joe


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Joe (Wa)

02-19-2005 10:18:33




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 Re: need advice on my case 300 3point hookup in reply to Joe (Wa), 02-19-2005 09:47:39  
Another thought, the interlock block puts a hydraulic lock on the hitch or other implement when there is no or low oil press from the pump so the engine has to be running with pump output pressure to lower the hitch.

I would check the check the oil filter first tho.

Sorry about the double post, there must be a loose nut on my keyboard :^)

Joe



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Joe (Wa)

02-19-2005 09:46:05




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 Re: need advice on my case 300 3point hookup in reply to bill schoepf, 02-19-2005 07:54:54  
Both draft arms on the Eagle hitch are height adjustable, do you have something other than the factor hitch?

Have you checked the return hyd filter, seems like it would almost have to break down and plug the passageway to cause a problem like that.

Also the spool in the interlock block on the side of the control valve may be stuck or not traveling far enough to uncover the return hole. You can put a gauge in the after plug on the interlock block, with engine running full speed and with hitch lever in down position press should not exceed 75 psi, more desirable is 0 - 25 psi. Spool travel in the return direction can be increased by adding copper washer on the cap on the back. That should not be necessary unless the spool has been changed. The spool should be free to travel in the bore under its own weight, to check that you will have to remove the interlock block from the control valve.

Has the interlock block been changed or repaired?

Can you describe the location of this a little better "near on the right side, are the words (height/depth/external) with what looks like a 3/4" bolt head". That is new to me.

Joe

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bill 1

02-19-2005 15:17:41




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 Re: need advice on my case 300 3point hookup in reply to Joe (Wa), 02-19-2005 09:46:05  
thank you so much, this sounds a lot like what a mechanic at a tractor place in fayetville told him this am.
the "height/depth/external" is where the block may be., when the weather is better (hopefully the first of the week, i plan on trying to fix it,,will ket you know my results,
i really do appreciate your time and help
sincerly..bill



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Joe (Wa)

02-19-2005 16:26:56




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 Re: need advice on my case 300 3point hookup in reply to bill 1, 02-19-2005 15:17:41  
Ok, I am thinking the "height/depth/external" is the quadrant lever stop that is on the right side of the rock shaft under the right lift arm. It has adjustable stops at both ends to limit the draft arms travel both up and down. The lower stop controls the lift height and the upper stop controls depth (lower limit) What the stops do is mechanically return the hand control lever to the neutral position at your predetermined travel of the draft arms.

Loosen the stops on the quadrant and move them to the extreme ends of the quadrant. Start the engine and see if you have full draft arm travel, if so now you need to adjust upper stop where you want it but the lower stop must return the lever to full neutral before the piston bottoms out in the raised position, otherwise the piston will have constant full pump pressure on it and the pump will continue to run against the relief valve and overheat. So with engine running, you have full lift on the draft arms, and the hand lever is in neutral you should be able to hand lift the draft arms up another 1" or so. That will ensure the piston is not bottomed out.

Note attached to the lower side of the hand control lever is the quadrant rod, this is also part of that adjustment.

The hitch is designed for full travel as measured from the ground to the center of the claw 11" full down & approx 34" full up. You should set the full down after you have moved the quadrant stops to the ends but before adjusting them for desired travel. Remember you need the engine running to lower the draft arms.

Set the down height on the left draft arm lift yoke first and then match it with the crank on the right draft arm, now do your desired travel adjustments on the quadrant rod and the limit stops. After everything is adjusted use the crank on the right draft arm for tilting or leveling your implement.

Sorry for the long post but am in a hurry. If this is clear as mud once you get into it, post back, I will try to do a better job of explaining.

Joe

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