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m-6

01-10-2005 11:29:31

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I know it has been said over and over again that an SC is not the best choice for a puller, but still have a temptation to put one together. There are getting to be a few DC's around, and although I've been looking for a CC for about 2 years I haven't been able to track one down in my area or price range. Cliff has the only SC that I know of that pulls in our area, and I've yet to see that pull. Just wondering if it has any potential to keep up with the H's and C's with combine motors (have a C around that can pull 7,000 lb in 3rd gear). Can it be stripped down below 3500 lbs? There seem to be a lot of SC's floating around and you can usually find them pretty cheap. Hmmm....maybe a DC repower - bellhousings probably way off :)??

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CLIFF

01-10-2005 19:58:29

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Re: SC puller in reply to m-6, 01-10-2005 11:29:31

My sc has nothing special but it pulls good in 4500lb class but is over powered by larger tractors in 5000lb class, It needs to be on a diet and put in 3500lb class and up but its is a nice orignal sc and i am keeping it that way,I am gowing to try to win a points in 4500lb at 1 or 2 places this year, I think if i had another sc to make into a puller the engine has could be made just as strong as a H, I think could be bored and stroked over 300 cui but the head and manifold would be the downfall, As for expince it cost alot to do one over stock so changing it wouldnt be alot worse if i spent the same money on a H or a WC people wouldnt think aney thing about it. cliff

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JGarner

01-10-2005 19:35:27

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Re: SC puller in reply to m-6, 01-10-2005 11:29:31

Tell me where all these SCs are!! I am looking for one and they all seem to be in Michigan, Iowa or Ohio. I am looking for a 54-55 SC in the TX, AR, OK, LA area. Seen any?

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L.Lamp

01-11-2005 18:10:57

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Re: SC puller in reply to JGarner, 01-10-2005 19:35:27

If you are going to pull an SC you don't want a '52,'53, or '54. They are way too heavy and you can't get rid of the weight. A '42 to '51 would be a better choice because you can get rid of the motor lift, pto,(must have working PTO here) front weight, heavy front wheels and use a mag and get rid of the starter, generator, battery and lights. Modify the drawbar and shead some there too. The only thing you want from a '53 or '54 is the engine block. They are a little scarce

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JGarner

01-11-2005 19:59:50

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Re: SC puller in reply to L.Lamp, 01-11-2005 18:10:57

Not interested in pulling contests. I am looking for this year model SC to work on a place I just bought. I want the weight for traction, starter for convinence and 3 pt for implements. If anyone knows of one in running condition with useable tires I am in the market for these year model SCs. I realize those sold as 55s were actually built in late 54.

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JIM HEITKEMPER

01-12-2005 06:31:07

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Re: SC puller in reply to JGarner, 01-11-2005 19:59:50

If you are serious about finding an SC we have three. 42' model, could run $300. 44' model, needs a magneto $700. 54' model, foot clutch, live power, 3pt hitch, that I would really have to think about before I price. Right now it has a bad coil we think. Where are you located? We are in 20 miles west of Louisville, KY. I also have three DC's, and a fourth parts tractor.

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JGarner

01-12-2005 15:50:14

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Re: SC puller in reply to JIM HEITKEMPER, 01-12-2005 06:31:07

The 54 is exactly what I am looking for.

I have a self imposed budget, so I would like to know what condition the old girl is in. Does it run? If so, how are the tires? Can it be used for a while, couple of years, working around my little spread pulling, pushing (with a Blade) leveling, mowing etc. I would like to use it for a while before I do a winter tear down and restoration. If the only thing that is wrong is the coil, by the way, why does it have a coil? As I recall our 54 SC had a mag. Are remote hydraulics hooked up and operational, last SC I looked at the hydraulic connections and connecting hoses had been removed and the fittings on the primary outlets plugged off. Lots of questions.

Kentucky is a far site closer than Traverse City, MI where the last SC I inquired about was. The shipping cost added to sales price was too much for me, but Kentucky may be different. I live just South of Houston, TX in the small town of Pearland.

James

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James Heitkemper

07-12-2006 06:36:30

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Re: SC puller in reply to JGarner, 01-12-2005 15:50:14

James ,,,If you are interested I could part with the 54 SC ,,My phone # 812 969 2123 ..we can discuss details .. Jim

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L.Lamp

07-12-2006 08:12:08

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Re: SC puller in reply to James Heitkemper , 07-12-2006 06:36:30

You were asking earlier if the '54 parts will bolt onto a '44. There are too many parts that will not interchange from '54 to '44. The easiest thing to do is to change the engine if you have a good old pre '52 engine. You will need to transfer flywheel clutch, pressure plate and install a new clutch pilot bearing in the flywheel. Everything will bolt to the '54 chassis from there. I have two of them. For pulling, the '54 is too heavy and will power out. If you have a good '54 engine, change the same items listed above with pre '52 parts. I have not pulled my '44 yet but I am hoping to this weekend.
I haven't weighed it yet, but I have left off anything that bolts on except the gas tank, hood, and grill.

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JIM HEITKEMPER

01-12-2005 20:48:41

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Re: SC puller in reply to JGarner, 01-12-2005 15:50:14

DEAR JAMES THA NK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE ,,IT WOULD BE EASIER TO GIVE UP THE OLDER MODELS ,, NOT SURE YOU WILL WANT THIS FOOT CLUTCHER 54 ,, AFTER I TELL YOU ITS HEARTACHES ,THE 54 HAS A NEW OVERHAUL ,,,AMAGNETO WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY CURE IT'S PROBLEM , THE TRACTORS WERE AVAILABLE EITHER WAY BUT WITH 6 VOLT SYSTEM,IT HAS A 12 VOLT COIL AND RESISTOR DIODE ,12 VOLT ALTERNATER DELCO , ENCLOSED REGULATOR . . 3 POINT AND REMOTES WORK WELL ,OR NOT AT ALL ,,BAD RELIEFVALVE?,, HAVE NOT TAKEN THE TIME TO FIGURE OUT ,, HAVE SPENT A LOT ON THIS OLD GIRL ,,AND STILL IT IS A PROBLEM CHILD ..IT LOOKS GOOD HOWEVER ..NEW TIRES ON THE FRONT ,,,BACK TIRES ,AGED ALWAYS HOLD AIR ,,DOUBT IF THERE IS FLUID IN THE WHEELS , LAST FALL FRONT BEARING OF PTO ,BROKE UP ,,A BALL BEARING WEDGED INTO REVERSE IDLER AND SHEARED OFF ONE TOOTH . HAPPENNED AT THE BARN WHEN SHIFTED TO REVERSE SHE REFUSED TO MOVE ,,.I HAVE SAID IDLER AND INTEND TO REMOVE TOP OF TRANNY TO REPAIR SOMETIME THRU THE WINTER ,,REALLY NO BIGGY TO THOSE THAT LIKE TO TINKER WITH OLD IRON THAT MAKES SENSE ,,I KNOW EVEN AFTER ALL THESE PROBLEMS ARE POINTED OUT ,,YOU NO DOUBT WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A PRICE ,,IN SPITE OF HER FAULTS , I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE $3000 FOR HER ,,,I KNOW SHE IS A RARE BIRD , SO DID THE GUY THAT TRADED HER TO ME,,GOING UP IN VALUE EACH YEAR ,, AND IF I HAD THE TIME I COULD MAKE A FINE TRACTOR OUT OF HER EASILY ,,,I WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER SELLING ,,BUT I AM A LITTLE DISMAYED ,WITH THIS ONE..SO THERE YOU ARE , IF YOU WANT TO CALL I CAN BE REACHED AT 812 969 2123 OR 812 596 4605 ,IT WAS NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU ..JIM HEITKEMPER ELIZABETH INDIANA

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dctom

01-10-2005 17:33:08

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Re: SC puller in reply to m-6, 01-10-2005 11:29:31

I THINK THE SC COULD BE MADE TO PULL VERY WELL COULD BE RATHER EXPENCIVE, WHY NOT GET A VAC AND PUT A 201 COMBINE ENGINE IN IT NOT REAL HARD TO DO AND HAVE 65 HP TOM

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j Heitkemper

08-30-2006 19:09:43

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Re: SC puller in reply to dctom, 01-10-2005 17:33:08

Hello DC Tom ..I Have a worn out ,Big Zenith Carb on a 53 foot clutch SC ..Trouble is there is No Reference tag on the carb That will help me to find a replacement ,,,..Do your build # go into that much detail ..Or better yet What other options are there in order to come up with something that will make this tractor be a sweetheart again , Any response would be helpful ,..Thanx Jim

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C. Amick

01-10-2005 12:56:44

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Re: SC puller in reply to m-6, 01-10-2005 11:29:31

I think I read something that Don L. wrote about being able to bore the 1953 and after model SC engine sleeves out to accept larger pistons in the 4-inch range.

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