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SHeiserman

11-27-2004 20:19:59




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I had a lot of play on the vertical spindle, so I took all the shims off the donor tractor. That did help, but it still has some slop. The I&T book says to add shims and gives some clearances, but that's all it has to say. At what point does that bushing have to be replaced, and what is the best source for that?

Also noticed two different types of shims. Some are contoured and the others are flat with notches for keyway. Put the contoured ones on first. By the time I made it back down to the shed, couldn't remember if that was right or not, but it seemed to be. I removed both front wheels to remove the spindle, just to see what was involved. Tell you what, a guy needs to have his little piggies out of the way when those wheels come loose. Wondering how many have replaced that bushing. Thanks.

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L.Lamp

11-28-2004 09:17:28




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 Re: DC front end in reply to SHeiserman, 11-27-2004 20:19:59  
Most of the roller bearings Case used were standard off the shelf type. If you can't find the right bearing at Case-IH, take the old bearing to an industrial bearing dealer and they will be able to match the part number on the old bearing. I did this on a couple of transmission bearings. Good luck! Also they may be your cheapest way to go.



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SHeiserman

11-28-2004 11:04:15




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 Re: DC front end in reply to L.Lamp, 11-28-2004 09:17:28  
Hey Larry. That's pretty much the route I was going to go. Wife's cousin used to be the parts guy at the Case dealer in Belmond and now manages the Napa in Hampton. He got me the brake seals (all 3 of them), so he'll be getting a call tomorrow. I'm just getting back in from changing the oil, and of course that had a bunch of white/gray streaks in it. I'm going to put the backhoe back on the putt-putt and go dig a hole. I'll decide later if me or the DC goes in the hole. There isn't enough money here for both of us. But hey, at least now I know how to fix the spindle issue. Talk to you later Larry, me and Old Abe are going to have a little chit-chat.

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L.Lamp

11-28-2004 13:13:43




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 Re: DC front end in reply to SHeiserman, 11-28-2004 11:04:15  
Here's another idea, give Don Livingston a call and see if he might have a whole front goosneck less the hubs that is in good condition. That might save you a buck or to.



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SHeiserman

11-28-2004 17:05:22




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 Re: DC front end in reply to L.Lamp, 11-28-2004 13:13:43  
I thought about trying the donor tractor's gooseneck and spindle just to see if it was any better. The bushing LOOKS better on that one anyway. Don L isn't a bad idea though, that's how this DC got here.



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Bruce Nelson

11-28-2004 07:40:46




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 Re: DC front end in reply to SHeiserman, 11-27-2004 20:19:59  
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All the shims do is correct the legnth of the spindle shaft. At the bottom of the spindle shaft there is a tapered bearing, when you bolt the steering arm on the top, you need shims to keep you from squeezing the tapered bearing too much. If you had too many shims, the shaft could move up and down too much. If you had too few shims, the steering arm would be forced against the goosneck casting and make it hard to turn. If you have more verticle movement in the spindle than shims will fix, you have a worn lower tapered bearing. None of this helps if you have a worn top bushing. I had a bushing made out of solid 660 bronze. It is no longer available new. My shaft was worn in the bushing area. I had the shaft turned down and the bushing made to fit the new shaft size. All this cost just under $100. To replace the bushing, remove the wheels, remove the steering arm and the shaft key. The shaft will drop out the bottom. Then drive the bushing up from the bottom with a long heavy punch and a disc shaped bushing driver. It's not too tight. Hope this all helps. Bruce

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SHeiserman

11-28-2004 08:30:11




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 Re: DC front end in reply to Bruce Nelson, 11-28-2004 07:40:46  
Thanks alot, Bruce. I had a sneaky suspicion I wouldn't just be able to go down to the store and order that bushing. The shims I put on amounted to about a 1/4", and it took some of the slop out. I'll see if I can order the bearing and then do what you had done. Thanks for the info.



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