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starter bendix clashing with flywheel

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Don

07-08-2004 18:45:28




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I replaced the starter today on my 580C with a reman. What a suprise when I hit the starter. The bendix is not making a clean engagement with the flywheel. As a matter of fact it is reallly grinding. If I hit the starter button several times it will finally engage and start the motor. The starter I took in for a core never had that problem. The parts man counted the number of teeth on the bendix and they both have 10.
So, why the grinding and not a nice engagement? Does the starter need to be shimmed out like in some cars?

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Roger (Mi)

07-12-2004 20:38:15




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 Re: starter bendix clashing with flywheel in reply to Don, 07-08-2004 18:45:28  
If the old starter did NOT grind, but the replacement does, then the problem is with the replacement starter. Shimming will NOT help. Obviously, the starter Bendix GEAR is slightly larger in diameter than the original. If the parts store still has your old starter, remove the replacement starter and compare the diameter of the Bendix gears. The parts store may have to get you another starter or starter Bendix.

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Steve

07-08-2004 19:30:37




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 Re: starter bendix clashing with flywheel in reply to Don, 07-08-2004 18:45:28  
Most likely your ring gear on the flywheel is worn. The old starter gear would have meshed perfectly with the old ring gear because they both wore evenly together during years of operation. Now that you have a new starter gear and a old ring gear you have two different wear patterns. Try to stick your finger in the starter hole and see if you can feel the ring gear and how worn it is. You can turn the engine with a crank handle from the front of the engine to check all the ring gear. Be sure to check the whole ring gear because the starter will only engage the ring gear at several points. If it is worn it will have to be replaced, if it feels like the teeth are in good shape something is wrong with your starter. If the ring gear needs replacing your will have to take the flywheel of and heat it to remove the gear. I use my household oven.

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Don

07-09-2004 04:46:26




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 Re: Re: starter bendix clashing with flywheel in reply to Steve, 07-08-2004 19:30:37  
This model has a power shuttle. To get the flywheel off sounds like a big job. Is the ring only available? What about taking a small grinder and trying to touch up the teeth on the flywheel? Ever tried that?



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Glenn F.

07-09-2004 12:19:02




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 Re: Re: Re: starter bendix clashing with flywheel in reply to Don, 07-09-2004 04:46:26  
Yes, in some cases that can be done. Can you do that through your starter hole? This is most commonly done when a new ring gear is not available. Glenn F.



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