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47 VAC Belching Fuel

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Dave

06-17-2004 17:19:54




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Timing is correct, carb has been rebuilt (twice), minus the floats and I have set them at 1/4" as per the manual, but I'm blowing more blue out the exhaust than the mosquitos can take. The TSX only has two adjustment circuits and neither seem to help. Do I have a valve problem? I haven't done a compression test as yet and the carb is sweating under a load.




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mj

06-20-2004 21:04:25




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 Re: 47 VAC Belching Fuel in reply to Dave, 06-17-2004 17:19:54  
You might want to check your valve clearances.



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Joe (Wa)

06-19-2004 01:19:28




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 Re: 47 VAC Belching Fuel in reply to Dave, 06-17-2004 17:19:54  
Well Dave just to kick it around some. Is the carb dripping gas when the engine is stopped for awhile? Is the choke valve actually opening all the way? Tried running it with the air cleaner disconnected?

When does it smoke, idling, high rpm with some load, or all the time? Does the engine respond to the idle and power needle adjustments?

Joe



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Dave

06-20-2004 07:21:20




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 Re: Re: 47 VAC Belching Fuel in reply to Joe (Wa), 06-19-2004 01:19:28  
It seems to be doing it all the time. I've tried adjusting both idle and power circuits and the only one that seems to respond is the idle. At one time I did have excess fuel dripping, but I reset the float level and remedied the problem. I think my tractor is cursed. Once I achieve 170 water temp, the engine is acting like it is experiencing vapor lock. I've tried running with and without the air cleaner and it doesn't appear to make a difference. I would appreciate some insight. Thanks!

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Joe (Wa)

06-20-2004 11:54:39




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 Re: Re: Re: 47 VAC Belching Fuel in reply to Dave, 06-20-2004 07:21:20  
Well Dave, There are just too many things or combinations that can be wrong to come up with an answer long distance.

Assuming you did a complete carb overhaul, a mental checklist:

1. power and idle jets are right size. No score marks in screwdriver slot near orifices.

2. power needle has right taper, about 70 degs or same as orignal and not bent.

3. floats set equal distance with gasket in place and are parallel with bowl cover.

4. throttle valve is bevel down with bevel ID nr on top.

5. I don't think the venturi can be installed upside down but may be possible.

6. engine warm, choke open. Mixture screws initial set is about 1 turn off the seat. Idle mixture screw is cw rich, ccw lean, set @ about 500 rpm with throttle valve just slightly open. Power screw is opposite, set at 1000 rpm or higher w/load.

Fuel smoke is incomplete combustion as in slow burn rate. Very lean generally causes backfire under load. Less lean or too rich may cause afterfire. Lean very high exh temp, light color haze. Rich cooler exhaust, dark smoke, wet plugs.

If engine runs fairly steady w/o positive missing, other engine problems that mimic carb lean & rich are weak coil, very low or uneven compression.

That doesn't tell you much does it. I think I would do a compression check and if ok, probably change the coil before going back to the carb.

Joe

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Dave

06-18-2004 14:27:42




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 Re: 47 VAC Belching Fuel in reply to Dave, 06-17-2004 17:19:54  
Joe,

Sorry for the misleading info. It is definitely fuel, I may have had my color wrong, and it definitely has the odor of fuel and the ol eyes burning thing going on. I haven't burned a drop of oil since changing it.



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Joe (Wa)

06-17-2004 22:55:08




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 Re: 47 VAC Belching Fuel in reply to Dave, 06-17-2004 17:19:54  
Blue indicates oil burning. Might want to do the compression check.

Joe



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