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700 Diesel - Is it Stuck? What should I offer?

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Tim

04-07-2004 17:00:25




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I am close to taking the plunge into my first tractor restoration project. Its a 700 diesel that my late father spent a lot of time operating for a neighboring farm. I finally tracked down the heir of the last owner/user. I only need to make an offer and negotiate gently. I could use some advice from the Case experts on this board.

It has been outside since 2001. The owner says they thought it had "a burnt valve" when it last ran. I hope to give it a good look this weekend. Is there a way to tell if it is stuck? If water got in, where should I look for a cracked block or head? Are their other weather related damages I should look for?

Otherwise, I think the tires all around need to be replaced, and one fender is gone. One rim is bad. But the sheet metal is straight, the tie rods (WFE) are good, the eagle hitch parts all are there. Sounds like he may even have the original 3 bottom plow and sickle bar mower that went with it (both CASE). Without knowing how/if it runs, what is a fair offer to make? I know I'll end up spending more than the tractor is worth - but I'm not doing this as an investment.

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Tim in NY

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Gene Dotson

04-08-2004 06:53:01




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 Re: 700 Diesel - Is it Stuck? What should I offer in reply to Tim, 04-07-2004 17:00:25  
Tim; The 700 doesn't have much of a history with burning valves. Most likely the head is cracked between the power cell chamber and exhaust valve seat. Heads are getting harder to find. There are shops that reweld them. Figure about $250.00 each for the heads. The wide front is a plus and will add to the value. Is this a row crop or western style? I have a 700 diesel narrow front that I have owned for 32 years and like it very well. I have replaced 3 sets of heads on it since I have owned it. I would like to find a tractor like this for parts for my tractor. The wide front would be nice on it... Gene

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Tim

04-08-2004 09:27:43




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 Re: Re: 700 Diesel - Is it Stuck? What should I o in reply to Gene Dotson, 04-08-2004 06:53:01  
Caseman - thank you for the hints. As surprising as it seems, the instrument cluster appears to be OK - at least physically. I have a feeling it will take a lot of $ to get it running well again. I'm planning on this being a multi-year project, pay as I go. At least I hope to get it in out of the weather right now. My wife's gonna love seeing this in the garage...

Gene - it is a row-crop. Thanks for the info on the heads cracking. I've seen pictures of your 700 in the archives and was hoping to contact you when I run into specific problems.

I am fairly confident of a good parts source. There is a large salvage yard just a few miles away. The owner's father and grandfather had the Case dealership in this area for many years. My grandfather sold off the horses and bought a VC, SO, and DC from his grandfather in the 40's. The salvage guy has a special interest in Case's also. Let me know if you need anything specific - I'll bet he has a WFE. He has a 700 gas with loader in his Case section right now.

Tim

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Gene Dotson

04-08-2004 19:31:09




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 Re: Re: Re: 700 Diesel - Is it Stuck? What should in reply to Tim, 04-08-2004 09:27:43  
Tim; My 700 and I have been through a lot together. When I started farming in 1972, I had the 700 and an 800 with wide front. I would change the front ends between the tractors, depending on the jobs. I did the heavy work with the 700 and planted with the 800. I would have the wide front on the 700 to cary thr spray tanks. I later bought a 1070 and did the heavy work with that. One spring the rear end went out on the 1070 and I worked most of the ground with the 700 pulling a 18.5 foot disc. It is still a work horse. It has M&W pistons and I work it at about 65 horsepower. I run it pretty strong on fuel and at 2200 RPM, so I haven't babied it. Probably why I have had to replace the heads. I ran it in the tractor pulls for a couple of years, and taching 3000 RPM and checking at 1000 PTO RPM, I was getting 115 horsepower. Very few 4020 JD's could beat me in the 7500 pound class... Gene

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Tim

04-13-2004 09:27:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 700 Diesel - Is it Stuck? What sh in reply to Gene Dotson, 04-08-2004 19:31:09  
Gene,

If I assume the heads are shot, or at least need to be welded, what other worst-case schenarios might I find? If the block is cracked, is it even worth fooling with? The parts catalog I have shows used blocks for around $1800-2000, but not for the 700 diesel.

I have not gone back to look it over yet. Was hoping to get my farmer brother-in-law, or my mechanic to go with me. Maybe better question - if you were selling yours, how much would you get for it, in good running condition? Around here, maybe $3,500 would be tops. Working backwards from that amount, I was thinking of offering the guy less than $1,000, since it has not run in 3 years, and needs cosmetic work also.

Thanks,

Tim

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R-man

04-10-2004 06:19:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 700 Diesel - Is it Stuck? What sh in reply to Gene Dotson, 04-08-2004 19:31:09  
Gene, I have a 1955 400 diesel with the 251 engine that is very tired. The only piston and sleeve kits I can find are for the Super 400 with the 267. I was told these will not fit. Do you have any idea where to get the parts I need? I would love to turn it up a bit. Any advice you can give me to squeeze a few more horse out of it would be welcome. Thanks



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caseman-d

04-08-2004 06:16:13




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 Re: 700 Diesel - Is it Stuck? What should I offer in reply to Tim, 04-07-2004 17:00:25  
I would check for any visible signs of cracking on both the head and block. You may be able to hold the fanbelt and turn the fan to see if it's stuck. Sounds like it may need lots of work. Try to get him to state a starting price. While you are looking it over talk about how expensive tires and parts are. The instrument panelis tough to find. I would start between 200-500. Since the tractor has other values to you it's hard to say for sure. You will probably have lots of money into getting it going;
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