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OT- pics of the world's largest diesel engine?

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Mike Schotte

03-31-2004 00:36:49




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These pictures are pretty amazing!

From the site:

"The Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C turbocharged two-stroke diesel engine is the most powerful and most efficient prime-mover in the world today."

A TWENTY THREE HUNDRED TON ENGINE with a THREE TON crankshaft!!

Silly me- I thought the Japanese made everything SMALLER.

Check it out:
- Schotte

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Ron J

03-25-2005 21:06:15




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 Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel engine? in reply to Mike Schotte, 03-31-2004 00:36:49  
I just came across this discussion. Earlier this month I got off the M/V President Polk. The 'Polk' is a large container ship with a Sulzer 12RTA84 installed in it's engine room. I did spend many days with my hands on that piece of Swiss designed, Korean built technology. In answer to the question asked about starting....as was posted in a previous post, high pressure air is injected via a set of valves to roll the engine over. At the proper time fuel is injected into the cylinders and the engine will start. The Sulzer is a two cycle engine and can run up to 95 rpms either in a clockwise or counterclockwise direction. Since the ship was installed with a fixed pitch prop and there is no gear box between the engine and the prop, the engine is started and stopped many times in a typical voyage. The captain can control the whole thing from the bridge and when reverse thrust is required while coming into the dock the engine is first stopped, the restarted in the reverse direction. This may happen five or six times during a typical docking sequence. Starting and stopping this engine is easy when everything is lined up and all the components are warmed up properly.

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INCase

04-01-2004 12:02:48




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 Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel engine? in reply to Mike Schotte, 03-31-2004 00:36:49  
what if you broke a crank (or anything) in the middle of the ocean with 1 engine????? ??



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Joe (Wa)

04-01-2004 15:15:03




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 Re: Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel eng in reply to INCase, 04-01-2004 12:02:48  
You are not going to break a crank. The worst that will happen is to score a journal. File, polish, install another bearing and proceed at reduced SOA. All deep water vessels have licensed engineers on board, that's their job, keep the ship running.

BtDt, Joe



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bob

03-31-2004 09:54:02




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 Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel engine? in reply to Mike Schotte, 03-31-2004 00:36:49  
So how do they make a crankshaft that big? Or is it made up of multiple smaller pieces?



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Campbell

03-31-2004 06:59:32




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 Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel engine? in reply to Mike Schotte, 03-31-2004 00:36:49  
Wartsila...Godzilla...I think there's a connection here somewhere. Mind blowing to think that the picture shows the massive 10cyl but they make a 14! I just want to see the engine install. Bet the engine bay has an elevator...and I wonder if they have to split the boat for servicing? (grin)



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Worth

03-31-2004 06:53:25




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 Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel engine? in reply to Mike Schotte, 03-31-2004 00:36:49  
This was an email from a friend who used to work on these type of engines. I received this when he saw these pictures. Kinda gives some perspective.

The last big diesel I worked on was a Sulzer 12RTA84...straight twelve cylinder two-stroke, 84 cm bore (33"), about a 100" stroke, 35 rpm slow speed, 95 rpm top speed, four turbochargers about as tall as I am, 57,500 hp.

The descriptions in the link are pretty accurate. The cross head is the equivalent of a wrist pin. The piston rod is bolted solid to the piston and the round piston rod passes through a seal. Above the seal, the underside of the piston helps pump air into the cylinder scavenging ports. Below the seal is the crankcase. The crankcase holds about 30 tons of SAE 30 oil, and is generally good for the life of the engine. SAE 50 or 60 oil is pumped directly into ports in the cylinder wall to lubricate the piston and rings and is consumed. At full power the 12 cylinder engine consumed about a ton of this cylinder oil daily. This piston rod seal is the round assembly you see just above the square end of the piston rod in the picture of the piston and the rod.

I've never heard of a "gondola" style bedplate, and I studied at the Sulzer factory in Winterthur, Switzerland. The large gear you see at one end of the crankshaft is for the turning gear...this allows the shut-down engine to be cranked over (for repairs and inspection) by the small electric motor you see on the left. The gear wheel you see in the middle of the crankshaft drives the camshaft for the exhaust valves and fuel injection pumps. The exhaust valves are opened by a hydraulic cylinder on the camshaft with a mating hydraulic cylinder on the valve. The exhaust valve has a compressed air cylinder to close it...no other spring. Intake takes place through scavenging ports in the bottom of the cylinder liner...two stroke, eh. The engine is started by admitting 450 psi compressed air into the tops of the cylinders in the correct sequence to roll the engine over. The engine is directly coupled to the propeller and is reversible.

Earlier versions of Sulzer engines, not the "C" version, had water cooled pistons. The pistons are cast iron with replaceable forged steel crowns.

In the lower picture the worker is standing alongside a fuel injection pump assembly...it holds injection pumps for two cylinders. The fuel is heavy black oil...centrifuged and heated to about 250°f to be fluid enough to atomize in the cylinder and burn cleanly. The engine starts on this black oil because it's kept continuously circulating through the injection system and kept hot. It only uses what we think of as diesel fuel if the steam system is shut down--the steam is needed to keep the heavy fuel hot.

I know the links says that the engine was built in Japan, but the signs are Korean. All large engines are built in Asia these days for cost reasons, although there might be a few built in eastern Europe. There are three designers of large engines---NSD Sulzer, owned by Wartsila of Finland, MAN B&W owned by MAN of Germany, and Mitsubishi, with the majority being MAN B&Ws (Burmeister& Wain, used to be Danish, and Machinery Works of Neuremburg, now Augsburg). If these are large engines, what a medium sized engine...think a locomotive engine or larger.

All engines are completely assembled on test beds, run at 100% and 110% of rated power into dynamometers (imagine the dyno that absorbes 100,000+ hp!) then disassembled and shipped to the ship builder for assembly in the ship. These large engines are also used for electric power plants when a steam plant would be too big (steam plants of this size are too inefficient).

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fixerupper

03-31-2004 06:13:52




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 Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel engine? in reply to Mike Schotte, 03-31-2004 00:36:49  
How do they start it?



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bob

03-31-2004 06:59:16




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 Re: Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel eng in reply to fixerupper, 03-31-2004 06:13:52  
Looks like it has an electric starter. In the picture of the crankshaft there is an electric motor to the left of the flywheel, and what appears to be a gear reduction unit. I suspect they have a compression release and some kind of ignition system to get it going. Start it spinning with no compression and then have at it. Probably don't shut it off again until it's time for an inspection.



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ted

03-31-2004 03:35:44




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 Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel engine? in reply to Mike Schotte, 03-31-2004 00:36:49  
I wonder if they use a 12 volt starter? :>)



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Mike Schotte

03-31-2004 04:47:57




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 Re: Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel eng in reply to ted, 03-31-2004 03:35:44  
Just think how big the can of ETHER must be! (grin)

-Schotte



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ted

03-31-2004 06:08:56




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 Re: Re: Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel in reply to Mike Schotte, 03-31-2004 04:47:57  
Mike, if you'd drop, lets be consevative, say a six cylinder in your SC you'd solve a couple of problems. 1) You wouldn't have to worry about holding the front end down 2) Those guys with the green machines would cower in fear. Of course, the downside, your fuel consumption may go up a tad.



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Thad

03-31-2004 03:33:55




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 Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel engine? in reply to Mike Schotte, 03-31-2004 00:36:49  
All i can say is WOW. Thad



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Gene Dotson

03-31-2004 03:21:59




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 Re: OT- pics of the world's largest diesel engine? in reply to Mike Schotte, 03-31-2004 00:36:49  
Mike, that was a 300 ton crankshaft... Gene



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