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DC oil filter - optional?

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BasketCASE

03-15-2004 10:51:13




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I drained the oil from my DC the other day, but when I took out the plug on the filter cup, nothing came out. So I stuck a screwdriver through the hole to clear any obstruction and the oil started to drain. When I took the lid off, I couldn't see any oil filter, only about an inch of sludge at the bottom of the cup. Somebody had forgotten (or so I choose to believe) to put in a new filter at the last oil change, which was God only knows how many years ago. I guess maintenance is only necessary on newer equipment. So, to get to my point, I will have to take the cup and supply and return oil lines off to clean them, but I'm sure there is plenty of sludge inside the engine also. What's my best bet for cleaning out the engine compartment? I have heard of people filling the crankcase with diesel and running the engine for not more than a few minutes (not necessarialy on a tractor). Before I try this option, what are some of your experiences? Thanks for any help.

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Paul f

03-16-2004 05:54:21




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 Re: DC oil filter - optional? in reply to BasketCASE, 03-15-2004 10:51:13  
dctom is right on (as always). You can get teh whole pan cleaned out throug the access ports and get the strainer out for cleaning. Rislone (sp) use to make a flush. you added a qt to the tractor then ran for a few minutes before draining and changing (I have also seen people put in some kerosene). Running the tractor with straight diesel or kerosene in the crankcase is too risky for me...the cure may be worse than the disease.

If you are not going to use a filter then you should only use non-detergent oil. HD oil keep stuff in suspension, witht idea the filter will get it out. With no filter the bad stuff just keeps getting pumped through bearings and the like. Non-Detergent oil lets the bad stuff settle out (hopefully to some non critical location like the bottom of your oil pan)

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todd hamilton

03-15-2004 16:25:58




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 Re: DC oil filter - optional? in reply to BasketCASE, 03-15-2004 10:51:13  
If the pan is like an SC you can remove the screen for cleaning. I was able to get my hand into the pan with a gas soaked rag and clean the sludge out of it. With the drain plug out you can push the crud through the hole. If you can't get in there it shouldn't be too much trouble to pull the pan off.



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RobertTX

03-15-2004 13:24:10




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 Re: DC oil filter - optional? in reply to BasketCASE, 03-15-2004 10:51:13  
I would not recommend putting solvents, diesel, or anything like that in your engine while it is running. Consider the puckey you found in the filter can broken loose and being circulated throughout the engine. Not pretty.

These engines ran non detergent oil for most of their early life, and possibly much longer. The engines were designed so that the oil could drop out dirt and sludge in the oil pan. The filters became optional later as Tom said, but they are a partial flow filter, so the pan still caught the big stuff. To clean the engine, you need to pull the pan. Alternative is to just pull the inspection covers and scrape, wipe, or shovel as appropriate. I am not making a bad comment about your engine - I have taken apart several Ls and LAs, and they had some scary stuff in the pan. You may also find that the screen assembly on the oil pump intake has come apart. If this is the case, I can suggest some pointers on its repair.

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dctom

03-15-2004 11:47:11




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 Re: DC oil filter - optional? in reply to BasketCASE, 03-15-2004 10:51:13  
OIL FILTERS WERE AN OPTION TILL ABOUT 1948 LOT OF GUYS DONT USE EM AT ALL BUT THEY DO HELP YOU CAN GET A NEW FILTER AT CASEIH OR NAPA



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Wolverine

03-15-2004 11:03:50




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 Re: DC oil filter - optional? in reply to BasketCASE, 03-15-2004 10:51:13  
I would just look at how it runs now. If you are having no problems I would be inclined to not change a thing depending on what you do with it. If you pour a cleaner or even a high detergant oil in there you may start leaking all over the place. I actually took the oil filter off my DC and plugged the where the lines originate. But I just put around the yard with the Dc. it don't run in a dirty enviroment.

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