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Gene Dotson

02-08-2004 14:04:14




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This is a subject I have mentioned before and have had 2 more episodes of frozen air cleaner cups. I bought an IH 660 in Minnesota that is a running tractor. We had to pull the tractor quite a while to get it running. When finally got it running it would develope only partial power, but enough to get it loaded. Got it home and in the warm shop and after a couple days I removed the oil cup from the air cleaner and it was completely full of water and no oil. Second episode was last week when I tried to start my 1941 "V". it was about 15 degrees and the tractor started right off, but put out a lot of black smoke and then died. Gas run out from the bottom of the carburetor like it was overchoked. The fuel tank was emptied and suction from the intake created a vacuum in the gas tank until I heard a tin canning effect in the tank. Removed the gas cap and heard the air rush in. After the weather warmed up above freezing, I pulled the cup off of this tractor and it too was full of water. Cleaned it and filled with oil and runs fine now... Gene

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Tim Pennell

02-09-2004 07:51:40




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 Re: Frozen Air Cleaners in reply to Gene Dotson, 02-08-2004 14:04:14  
Common occurence for me with my David Brown 880. I use a 6ft wide bucket for plowing snow. Light fluffy snow tends to get sucked into the breather, melts while running as all is warm, but the next time I go to use it the durned thing won't start. Scratch head for a while till the light clicks on, oh ya dummy, breather again, thaw it out and away we go. Usually fools me about twice a winter.



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Brent

02-08-2004 20:06:51




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 Re: Frozen Air Cleaners in reply to Gene Dotson, 02-08-2004 14:04:14  
I haven't gotten around to making the brackets that hold the inlet pipe to the exhaust pipe on our SC. A couple of years ago, the kids forgot to pull it into the tractor port. It rained, and then, being Ohio in December, the weather got pretty cold pretty fast.

When I started the SC to put it away, it had no power at all. After a few minutes of tinkering, I noticed that she'd speed up a little if I played with the hose connecting the carburetor inlet to the air filter canister (the mis-aligned thing that Mike posted... ;-) ). I pulled the bottom off, and not only was there a chunk of ice in there with the oil, there was a nice chunk in the canister. Little by little, as I chipped the ice away, she picked up power as more air was able to get into the engine.

I looked, and sure enough...water running off the hood would drip right into the top of the canister...almost like it was designed that way!

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Don Rudolph

02-08-2004 14:49:18




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 Re: Frozen Air Cleaners in reply to Gene Dotson, 02-08-2004 14:04:14  
Gene,
You have an excellent point. I brought the DC LP home from Texas last winter and made sure the radiator and block was drained, but I didn't think of the transmission and hydraulic sumps. They were full of water of course and we had to drag the tractor off the trailer and into the shop. Water seems to get in everywhere if they are outside at all.



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