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STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES

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Dave S

01-17-2004 14:13:09




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I'm still trying to remove sleeves from my DC. Have been soaking the top with PB Blaster. Broke the home made puller. Didn't budge. Have a fella coming next week that does big diesel engines. Has a puller with hooks that goes under the sleeve and one that goes into the sleeve like an expansion plug. Hopefully we can get them out. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Dave S.




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Walt

01-18-2004 18:41:06




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 Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Dave S, 01-17-2004 14:13:09  
If your anywhere near NJ I could help you out, have done this countless times. i would use caution with the sleeve jack you mentioned. If it's the one I'm thinking of it's an OTC hydraulic model that has the capibility to break the block. Insofar as all this ice and fire I again would use caution. Cylinder blocks have a finite amount of strength and were never ment to have all these extreme tempertures, furthermore the tractor is old and metal does fatigue, so as the saying goes "haste makes waste"

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CRUSADER

01-18-2004 10:34:54




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 Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Dave S, 01-17-2004 14:13:09  
Dave,
Put your sleeve tree in there and get plenty of tension on the sleeve. Then put Dry Ice into the hole/sleeve that you are pulling. It'll take a little while, but you will hear an audible "POP" and the sleeve will jump up. It's usually a fight for a small distance but the sleeve will come out. Have removed more than one obstinate engine sleeve (both dry and wet types) by using this method.

I will be (hopefully in the near future) in need of a sleeve puller for a Farmall M. If you don't mind, could I get a description or a picture of the setup that you are using? Not sure if I'll be able to afford a sleeve puller if/when I ever find one.

later days mate,
Jim

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Tom in Mo.

01-18-2004 16:19:38




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 Re: Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to CRUSADER, 01-18-2004 10:34:54  
Dry ice and the puller sounds like just what the doctor ordered. Great idea on the dry ice.



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Bill Koch

01-18-2004 09:18:11




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 Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Dave S, 01-17-2004 14:13:09  
Kroil oil $30.00 per gallon but the cheapest money ever spent. I learned the hard way



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dctom

01-18-2004 16:53:22




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 Re: Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Bill Koch, 01-18-2004 09:18:11  
always was told DONT SPOIL IT KROIL IT



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Casenut

01-18-2004 06:19:03




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 Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Dave S, 01-17-2004 14:13:09  
You guys go through alot of hassle to remove a sleeve. Just use a sleeve puller and they will come out very easily. (no welding or beating involved)



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Dave S

01-18-2004 11:15:02




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 Re: Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Casenut, 01-18-2004 06:19:03  
CASENUT, where are you located? I'd like to have you assist me in the removal. Some tractors I'm sure are easier than others. My bottom plate is slightly larger than the sleeve and is not contacting the block. As I said this is not a purchased puller just a home made thing. I pulled sleeves out of a WC and 4020 JD so I know it works.



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Casenut

01-18-2004 14:58:18




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 Re: Re: Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Dave S, 01-18-2004 11:15:02  
Central Wisconsin



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Jeff

01-17-2004 23:14:10




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 Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Dave S, 01-17-2004 14:13:09  
If they are cast welding won't do much at all but if you have a torch handy just run a few beads with it like you would the welder. It will contract the sleve just as good and you won't have to worry about splatter. Just run it until it kinda melts the cast iron and it should work good. We do this to some big (17-20 inch ) bronze castings to get them out where I work and it has never failed in 25 yrs...

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george md

01-17-2004 20:26:16




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 Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Dave S, 01-17-2004 14:13:09  
Dave,

Welding is a great idea for dry liners , but DC has wet liners and they are cast iron , weld won't do much for them . Those sleeves are not that hard to pull. If you broke a puller , you must have had the plate
caught on the block and not just the sleeve.

george



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John Mann

01-17-2004 19:04:11




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 Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Dave S, 01-17-2004 14:13:09  
I agree with Jerry, weld a bead in a line from top to bottom , the go 1/4 way around and go again till you have 4 welds , be sure to cover the crankshaft with leather gloves or old heavy rags . Removal should be easy after this.



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Jerry

01-17-2004 17:45:04




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 Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Dave S, 01-17-2004 14:13:09  
If the sleeves are not to be saved, you may weld a bead inside of them near the bottom o-rings
. I have seen this work a few times, a lot of times on bearing races.



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John Saeli

01-17-2004 15:22:36




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 Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Dave S, 01-17-2004 14:13:09  
Hey Dave: I put a jack under them and jack up, then get under there with a short handled sledge and block and give em a whack.



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John

01-17-2004 14:41:40




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 Re: STILL TRYING TO REMOVE SLEEVES in reply to Dave S, 01-17-2004 14:13:09  
Have you tried dry ice?



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