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DOES A 311 TRIPLE RANGE HAVE LIVE PTO?

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GARY

12-16-2003 10:58:18




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Terry

12-18-2003 10:45:00




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 Re: DOES A 311 TRIPLE RANGE HAVE LIVE PTO? in reply to GARY, 12-16-2003 10:58:18  
So what is the purpose of the hand clutch for the PTO in the 311? Is it or isn;t it a Live PTO?
Terry



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Joe (Wa)

12-18-2003 13:53:00




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 Re: Re: DOES A 311 TRIPLE RANGE HAVE LIVE PTO? in reply to Terry, 12-18-2003 10:45:00  
Terry, the function of the hand clutch is to engage/disengage the transmission for ground movement only. The engine clutch (foot) engages the drive shaft that powers the pto gear directly and the transmission via the hand clutch.

The rub: Ground movement can be controlled by the hand clutch and has no effect on the pto.

The pto can be started or stopped by the foot clutch but when disengaged there is no engine power to the hand clutch for ground movement.

The pto can be stopped by the lever on the cover regardless of position of the clutches or ground movement.

The pto can only be started with the lever on the cover when the foot clutch is disengaged and the shaft is stopped and by extension engine power for ground movement.

Is this live, frankly I don't know. It certainly is not independent.

Joe

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DKase

12-16-2003 13:00:06




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 Re: DOES A 311 TRIPLE RANGE HAVE LIVE PTO? in reply to GARY, 12-16-2003 10:58:18  
NO you do NOT have a live PTO! It is much better than the old PTO that runs through the clutch, but it is NOT live. You cannot pull the PTO into gear while you are moving. It operates on the same principal as the WD Allis.



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Joe (Wa)

12-16-2003 13:49:21




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 Re: Re: DOES A 311 TRIPLE RANGE HAVE LIVE PTO? in reply to DKase, 12-16-2003 13:00:06  
Yes DKase you are correct depending on what your definition of a live pto is.

On the 300 series, Case bills this as a "live" or "constant running" pto. I agree the latter term may be more correct. However if you are clearing a bailer, bush hog, or whatever it will accomplish the same purpose.

The 400 series has the "live pto" that you describe but the term Case uses in their operator's manual is "independent pto". I am sure that you do not agree with this term either.

I don't think anyone has the copyrights to the description of the modes of pto control.

Joe

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Joe (Wa)

12-16-2003 11:26:32




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 Re: DOES A 311 TRIPLE RANGE HAVE LIVE PTO? in reply to GARY, 12-16-2003 10:58:18  
If you have a hand AND foot clutch yes. Gas 148 cid engine is rated 33 pto & 29 draw bar.



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GARY

12-16-2003 11:50:13




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 Re: Re: DOES A 311 TRIPLE RANGE HAVE LIVE PTO? in reply to Joe (Wa), 12-16-2003 11:26:32  
YOUR SAYING THAT THE HAND CLUTCH ON THE LEFT THAT IS WHAT THOSE CLUTCH-PACS DO NOT SO SURE OF HOW IT WORKS



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Joe (Wa)

12-16-2003 12:38:34




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 Re: Re: Re: DOES A 311 TRIPLE RANGE HAVE LIVE PTO? in reply to GARY, 12-16-2003 11:50:13  
Yes, the clutch plates in the torque tube control the tractor transmission for ground movement.

If the foot clutch is engaged and the hand clutch lever is in the forward position, the tractor has movement over the ground and the pto will turn (assuming the lever on the pto cover is engaged).

Move the hand lever to the aft position and ground movement is disengaged but the pto continues to run.

If you disengage the foot clutch, regardless of hand clutch position, both ground movement and pto are disengaged.

Joe

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GARY

12-16-2003 11:00:25




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 Re: DOES A 311 TRIPLE RANGE HAVE LIVE PTO? in reply to GARY, 12-16-2003 10:58:18  
ALSO WHAT IS THE ACTUAL HORSEPOWER 4 CYL. GAS



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