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Ted

12-05-2003 02:42:29

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I was told that near the end of production Case offered a DC diesel engine. I believe they said it was made by Perkins. Anybody ever hear of such a beast?

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caseman-d

12-05-2003 20:31:57

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Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to Ted, 12-05-2003 02:42:29

There was a conversion for a 2-71 detroit for the Case D. I never heard of one in a DC although it would still fit. I don't think the 3-71 would fit the D series. The LA had conversions that would take a 3-71 and a 4-71 detroit. Looking at the air cleaner I would guess 2-71.
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dctom

12-05-2003 06:23:07

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Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to Ted, 12-05-2003 02:42:29

if i had your e mail i would send you a pic of it tom

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John Saeli

12-05-2003 10:38:10

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Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to dctom, 12-05-2003 06:23:07

Hey dctom; I'd bet we'd all like to see that picture. Can you post it up here?

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dctom

12-05-2003 12:55:07

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Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to John Saeli, 12-05-2003 10:38:10

John i dont know how to post a pic here, i did put it on tractor photos at this site but it says it is a D4 cat maybe you more learnered puter users can get it posted over here dctom

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Here's the picture...

12-05-2003 12:59:35

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Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to dctom, 12-05-2003 12:55:07

Thanks, DCTom! Can you email me a bigger version? [email protected]

Thanks,
-Schotte

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Here's the BIG PICTURE

12-05-2003 14:05:51

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to Here's the picture..., 12-05-2003 12:59:35

Thanks again DCTom.

third party image

-Schotte

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dctom

12-05-2003 14:12:36

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to Here's the BIG PICTURE, 12-05-2003 14:05:51

ANY ONE KNOW WHAT KIND OF ENGINE THAT MAY BE???

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Frank

12-06-2003 18:02:36

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to dctom, 12-05-2003 14:12:36

It looks like a P&H diesel to me, they had a smaller blower than a Detroit

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case 400 puller

12-06-2003 11:32:55

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to dctom, 12-05-2003 14:12:36

did'nt case try the 400D in a test in airzona before the 400 came out?/

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CASEPOWER

12-05-2003 14:59:01

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to dctom, 12-05-2003 14:12:36

It sure looks like a detroit to me. That also looks like a small supercharger to me.

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Dr Cy Kosis

12-05-2003 19:59:39

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to CASEPOWER, 12-05-2003 14:59:01

All two stroke Detroit diesels have superchargers. They have to have a positive displacement supercharger to be able to start up.

Some detroits also have turbos on top of the supercharger to increase power output but still require the supercharger for startup and low rpms when the turbo output would possibly be too low to sustain the engines operation.

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CASEPOWER

12-05-2003 21:31:22

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to Dr Cy Kosis, 12-05-2003 19:59:39

I have argued that with many people. I say super charger and they say on a detroit it's a blower and is not a super charger. The supercharger was invened before the gas or diesel engine. It was a fan.

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Dr Cy Kosis

12-06-2003 06:45:03

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel? in reply to CASEPOWER, 12-05-2003 21:31:22

Blower is just a generic name for a supercharger. Anything that mechanically force feeds air into the engine is a supercharger.

Other names for superchargers such as rootsblowers and turbochargers are just more specific names for a particular type of supercharger. There are currently only 5 basic types of superchargers out there and all the different designs fall into one of the 5 basic types of Roots, Centrifigal, Vane, Axial Flow or the newest, Comprex Wave Motion.

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CASEPOWER

12-05-2003 15:00:23

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to CASEPOWER, 12-05-2003 14:59:01

I believe it's a 2-71 detroit.

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Dr Cy Kosis

12-05-2003 19:51:19

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to CASEPOWER, 12-05-2003 15:00:23

I'd bet on a 3-53. A 71 series is pretty big block. I'm not sure they even made a 2 cylinder 71 series. I know they made 3-71s but I've never heard of a 2-71. The exhaust looks like it has 3 branches and the 53 series blower is totally different to the 71's That looks identical to a 53 series blower case.

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CASEPOWER

12-05-2003 20:00:31

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel? in reply to Dr Cy Kosis, 12-05-2003 19:51:19

I ran a 2-71 in a Allis HD-5 loader for years.I worked on two other HD-5s for local farmers with 2-71s Looks just like one. I don't think it's a 53 looks like a 71 to me.

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dctom

12-05-2003 16:27:15

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to CASEPOWER, 12-05-2003 15:00:23

could very well be, i was up there one time and found three tractors that was sent to the main engineering shop for retrofit of diesel engine, talking to engineers we found print numbers for the conversion but no prints, some of the engineeres said they beleived it was detroit diesels, found this picture about the same time, sure wish i could have found the tractor LOL tom

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DON L

12-05-2003 17:56:10

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel? in reply to dctom, 12-05-2003 16:27:15

Wow ! That does look like a Detroit! In Detroit literature there is make mention of a DC conversion. They pushed the L/LA conversions much harder. I have two LA with Detroits HUMMM. And CASE Corp.had one! Don L.

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Glenn FitzGerald

12-05-2003 13:38:24

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to Here's the picture..., 12-05-2003 12:59:35

DC Tom, I too would like a copy of that enlarged picture if it,'s not too much trouble. My e-mail is not blocked. Thanks, Glenn FitzGerald

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mike

12-05-2003 04:33:50

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Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to Ted, 12-05-2003 02:42:29

I have a picture of a DC ,Case install a 400 dsl engine in place of the gas.I don't know of any production. They used the DC as a test mule.

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dctom

12-05-2003 06:20:02

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Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to mike, 12-05-2003 04:33:50

yes case had the 400 engine ready before the tran and rear end so they tested the engine in a dc, i also have a pic of another diesel engine in a DC maybe the perkins you spoke of but it was only for testing, 400 was introduced and put the old DC out to pasture dctom

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ted

12-05-2003 07:06:39

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Re: Re: Re: DC Diesel?? in reply to dctom, 12-05-2003 06:20:02

Tom, Thanks! I'd love a picture! email is: [email protected]

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