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Alternatives to Caccium Chloride?

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Glenn FitzGeral

12-03-2003 01:41:27




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Calcium chloride is used in tires for added weight. It is corrosive. Couldn't a person simply use slightly diluted windshield solvent? I know this wouldn't be quite as heavy as CC but would it work? Much cheaper than anti-freeze. Would this destroy the inner tube? Does anyone have a simple explanation/diagram of the technique used to install fluid in tires? I'd like to be set up to do it myself so I could add or remove it myself depending on what I use my tractor for. I appreciate your expertise. Glenn F.

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case 400 puller

12-03-2003 18:10:20




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 Re: Alternatives to Caccium Chloride? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 12-03-2003 01:41:27  
somthing bad wrong with the dc if it won't pull a 2-14 plow in 2nd or 3rd gear.if you burnt valves your carb. was set too lean.nopower if set toolean



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Glenn FitzGerald

12-03-2003 19:52:13




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 Re: Re: Alternatives to Caccium Chloride? in reply to case 400 puller, 12-03-2003 18:10:20  
This is the third time I've attempted to respond. My computer keeps dropping my response. It's getting shorter each time. Let me say it briefly: You bring over any 40hp tractor you want and I'll guarentee you winn not pull 2-14's in third gear more than 20 feet! Soil type makes ALL the difference. We had a fellow with more mouth than brains come over one time with his powerhouse to show us how plowing was done. ahe couldn't move his plow. He went home with his tail between his legs! Roto caps were designed for a reason. You pull any gas engine hard enough and it will burn the valves. I can assure you our DC with probably 20,000 hours on it IS NO SLOUCH! I can't back this up and proofread it so there likely will be some errors. Glenn F,

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Daryl

12-03-2003 09:21:25




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 Re: Alternatives to Caccium Chloride? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 12-03-2003 01:41:27  
My local Firestone tire dealer uses methanol(I think) instead of calcium chloride. He fills all the tires on the new tractors at the Deere dealership with it. It is non corrosive. In its pure form it is very flammable, but mixed with water it isn't. It costs about the same as calcium chloride(maybe a few dollars more). Well worth not having to worry about rusty rims.



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Bruce Nelson

12-03-2003 05:36:40




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 Re: Alternatives to Caccium Chloride? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 12-03-2003 01:41:27  
Glenn, at my real job, we put windshield washer fluid in tires all the time. It's true, you do not get the 13 lbs. or so per gallon of weight, but you can cheaply add a bunch of traction. You can get an adaptor at CarQuest that will connect a garden hose to the tire stem. These cost $5. Then you need a pump that will connect to a garden hose and to your washer fluid supply. We get washer fluid in plastic 55 gallon barrells. Pump the fluid in, stop every once in a while to let air out of the tire (air pressure will build up as fluid is pumped in) and fill 'er up to about 75% full. That is about to the top of the rim. Be sure to check your pressure with a gauge that is happy with fluid. (identified by not having a square stem end, it's kinda curvey) Use the same air pressure as a tire that has no fluid in it. It's an easy process, good luck. Bruce

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Roger (Va.)

12-03-2003 21:02:55




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 Re: Re: Alternatives to Caccium Chloride? in reply to Bruce Nelson, 12-03-2003 05:36:40  
Where do you get the fluid in 55 gal. drums and what do they cost

Thanks



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John SAeli

12-03-2003 04:44:12




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 Re: Alternatives to Caccium Chloride? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 12-03-2003 01:41:27  
Hey Glenn; I thought you were going to use a handle?? Just kidding. I have heard of restorers using Wind. wash. solution. Never heard anything about tube disintingation. Are you sure you need added weight?



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Glenn FitzGerald

12-03-2003 16:14:14




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 Re: Re: Alternatives to Caccium Chloride? in reply to John SAeli, 12-03-2003 04:44:12  
Mike, I haven't plowed with mine yet, but I'm sure I will need fluid and new tires to pull the 2-16' mounted plow. Dad's '51 DC would not pull 2-14's trailor plow without fluid in his rear tires. 1951, he traded off the VAC on a new DC, sure he really had something now. It couldn't pull the McCormick plow. Added 75%+ fluid and he could pull it in low and---sometimes second. However, within the first two years he had to grind the valves twice. Put roto caps on an now it was ready for some serious pulling. For years on the corn chopper he would go ahead 50', throw it into neutral & let it catch up.(no live pto on a '51) This went on till about 1970 at which time we picked up a 560 IH gas job. Only then did the DC get a break at all. We have always taken good care of the DC--good lubing, never overheat, etc. but it has not had an easy life. We still have that plow, and every now and then Bertha takes it out for a little therapy. Glenn F. PS. Concerning the handle; I think it was you who said, "What's wrong with your name?" Made sence to me. So for now I'm still Glenn F.

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jr

12-04-2003 16:57:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Alternatives to Caccium Chloride? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 12-03-2003 16:14:14  
There is a product we have been using for some time now called "RIM GUARD". It is basically food-grade natural liquids from corn, beans or other plants. Brown and stinks, but weight is equivalent to CC and won't freeze or rust out rims. Look it up for a dealer closer to you.



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Alvin n Ms.

12-09-2003 20:18:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Alternatives to Caccium Chloride? in reply to jr, 12-04-2003 16:57:06  
I would just add enough to keep it from freezing solid.
Like who goes out when it is 30 below and falling?



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