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DC 40... Horsepower?

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Glenn Fitz Ge

11-23-2003 13:18:45




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I have had a loyalty to DC's all my life. We've had at least one of them ever since 1951. (I was born in '59) A DC just was the standard for a tractor. We have a 570 Case. It is a wonderful little tractor. Handiest little thing you could drive. But, it pales compared to the DC on any performance point.(but it does run on abt. half the fuel) I believe it's rated at 46 hp. We were told by an old time Case lover and mechanic a DC was lucky to have 40 hp with 4" pistons. I know our DC's will pull the pants off the 570 anyday. I realize I'm comparing apples to oranges in just about every way, but...How much pto HP does a DC have with high compression head, gas engine, and 4" pistons? Someday, I'm just gonna have to put Bertha on the dino and find out, but surely someone already has. How much PTO HP? G.F.

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motg

11-23-2003 14:57:41




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 Re: DC 40... Horsepower? in reply to Glenn Fitz Gerald, 11-23-2003 13:18:45  
who dose your mechanic work for john deere?? a DC case with 4 " pistons and 5505-A head will push 50 horse easy, m&w and a little tuneing and you will have 60



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DCPULLER

11-23-2003 16:56:55




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 Re: Re: DC 40... Horsepower? in reply to motg, 11-23-2003 14:57:41  
I have a DC with electronic ign. hot coil 5505 head. 4inch piston and can only get 44 hp. what other fine tuneing can I do?



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John H-WI

11-24-2003 17:53:00




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 Re: Re: Re: DC 40... Horsepower? in reply to DCPULLER, 11-23-2003 16:56:55  
A few years ago there was a picture of a DC with the wide adjustable front that the gentleman and his father pulled in California in the 7500 open class. He just mentioned afew things they did like the 4 1/8 M & W pistons plus the carb off an 830 gas. Wouldn't give all the specifics but did say that the closest anyone got to them was 20 feet. Still got the issue some place.



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Doug in OR

11-24-2003 10:41:01




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 Re: Re: Re: DC 40... Horsepower? in reply to DCPULLER, 11-23-2003 16:56:55  
X amount of cubic inches is only going to give you Y amount of torque, if the stroke of two engines is the same. You can increase torque a bit if you increase compression, but not to a great extent. The only way you can get considerable more HP is to change the torque curve and increase the engine RPM. I don't know what class you pull in, but where I pull, I'm only allowed to run at no more than 10% over factory rated RPM. A cam would be of no real value to me. BTW, electronic ignition does not give you much more - unless you compare it to a standard ignition system that is in need of tuning.

Higher octane gasoline does one thing: It burns more slowly. This is useful if you are experiencing engine knock. Otherwise, it will not give you any additional HP. The is ONE way to get more HP from your gasoline - find a gasoline that has more MBTU of energy. Most gasolines are rated at between 110,000 and 114,000 MBTU per gallon. The higher the MBTU, the more "bang" you get per explosion. I have not found a way to know how much energy is in one brand of gasoline versus another. Perhaps racing gasoline has more. I dunno.

Bottom line... the only real way to increase HP is to increase cubic inches - if you are limited in what you are allowed to do with your RPM.

Personally as a puller, I'll go with torque anyway. I like the way a Case can lug down and just keep on going.

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BILL

11-23-2003 18:41:59




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 Re: Re: Re: DC 40... Horsepower? in reply to DCPULLER, 11-23-2003 16:56:55  

yOU NEED A good cam Like I used to sell



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Don Rudolph

11-23-2003 20:27:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: DC 40... Horsepower? in reply to BILL, 11-23-2003 18:41:59  
Get an LP head (6128A) and have it shaved drastically. Make sure to shim under the rocker arm posts to compensate for the machining. Use an Octane boost such as Cam II and rejet the carburetor.



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