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VAC Hydraulic system priming

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Chris

08-01-2003 15:51:43




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I drained the hydraulic system to change the lines on my tractor 52 VAC. Do I need to prime the suction side of the pump before I start the tractor or is the pump able to self prime. The system was very low on fluid when I drained it, so I assume that the pump is probably dry. Been sitting for some ten years before restoration was started.




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Joe (Wa)

08-01-2003 21:44:01




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 Re: VAC Hydraulic system priming in reply to Chris, 08-01-2003 15:51:43  
Pump is self primping but it's always a good idea to pull the line and fill with new oil before starting a suspected dry pump. Going to prevent some wear if nothing else. You had water in the system right? I think I would blow it out with compressed air first. Joe



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Theo

08-03-2003 09:45:35




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 Re: Re: VAC Hydraulic system priming in reply to Joe (Wa), 08-01-2003 21:44:01  
I've been working on my VAC hydraulics as well. I have a two bottom mounted plow that is easily lifted, but will not hold. Any recommendations in that direction would be helpful!



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Joe (Wa)

08-03-2003 16:06:07




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 Re: Re: Re: VAC Hydraulic system priming in reply to Theo, 08-03-2003 09:45:35  
The draft arms are held in the raised position by a hydraulic lock on the cylinder. Leak down occurs if there is leakage pass the piston and /or through valves in the control block.

Check for piston leak by disconnecting the leak-off tube fitting. It is normal to find grease & some residual oil drip here. Work hitch until cleared and drip stops. Lift & hold a weight and observe the leak off.

The control block has 4 valves: 1) lift valve, 2) lift check valve, 3) release valve, 4) relief valve.

Think of the hyd lifting circuit as a �T�. Pump pressure at the bottom, lift check valve upper left, and lift valve upper right.

Lever in neutral: pump input is circulated back to the sump by the open lift valve, all other valves are closed.

Lever in raise position: lift valve is closed by the cam, press builds up in the �T� forcing open the lift check valve and admitting oil to the cylinder.

At the desired height, lever is returned to neutral. Lift valve, opened by its spring, by-passes pump press to sump again. As press drops in the �T� the lift check valve is closed by its spring.

The cylinder is now held in a hyd lock by the lift check valve, relief valve, and the release valve.

Lever in lower position: The release valve is opened by the cam dumping trapped oil into the return passage.

The lift check valve is located under the plug on the bottom of the control block. The other 3 valves are on the right side of the block under the cam.

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Theo

08-04-2003 08:44:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: VAC Hydraulic system priming in reply to Joe (Wa), 08-03-2003 16:06:07  
Joe, thanks for all the information. I have had the control block apart. I could not get the spring/control lever section apart though. Is this where the control valve is? It has no problem lifting and will hold it up without leaking as long as I am holding the lever. As soon as the lever goes to neutral, the plow comes crashing down. Thanks again for your insight!



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Joe (Wa)

08-04-2003 15:55:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: VAC Hydraulic system priming in reply to Theo, 08-04-2003 08:44:56  
Hi Theo, we may not be talking about the same thing. Do you have the eagle hitch with hyd pump mounted on right front side of engine or the high pressure hitch with hyd pump on the belt pulley drive? Joe



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Theo

08-05-2003 08:18:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: VAC Hydraulic system primi in reply to Joe (Wa), 08-04-2003 15:55:12  
Joe, I have the hydraulics that run off of the belt pulley. I believe my tractor is a 1948. The plow is mounted (not 3 pt.) and probably weighs in excess of 200 lbs., but I have seen other VAC's hold that same plow with no problem.



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Joe (Wa)

08-05-2003 09:27:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: VAC Hydraulic system p in reply to Theo, 08-05-2003 08:18:17  
Hi Theo, you have the high pressure hitch. All my experience is with the eagle hitch. I don't know enough about the HP hitch to help you. There are guys at this site that may be able to assist but you need to get their attention. This post is too old and the subject line does not apply to your tractor. Suggest you start a new post on page one. Be sure to mention that it is a high pressure hitch with hydraulic pump on belt pulley drive. Good luck, Joe

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