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Why wouldn't this work?

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C. Amick

03-10-2003 14:27:30




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The biggest problem with the ramp ball type disc brakes that that I've found seems to be rust. The balls and ramps get rusted from exposure to water. This causes the brakes to either not want to engage or not want to disengage. Why not replace the balls with stainless steel ones? Stainless steel balls are available from places like McMaster Carr.




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Elliott

03-13-2003 16:44:06




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 Re: Why wouldn't this work? in reply to C. Amick, 03-10-2003 14:27:30  
There is one queston that I was thinking. Stainlees steel ball will not as hard as the steel balls is that not right. Just my 2 cense worth



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DKase

03-10-2003 16:10:18




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 Re: Why wouldn't this work? in reply to C. Amick, 03-10-2003 14:27:30  
The problem is not rust!! The problem is that the linings are worn out and the balls get to far out of the holes and all the leverage is lost. Once the balls get to far out of the holes the springs don't have enough pull to pull things back into alignment. We once had a 930 Std. that the brakes were really lousy. I took the disks out and put one extra one in that were worn out more yet. They were thick enough so the cover just fit on without locking up the brakes. About 15# pressure would lock them up. The key to fixing them is to get the linings as thick as possible and still allow them to turn.

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Mike Schotte

03-10-2003 14:47:12




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 Re: Why wouldn't this work? in reply to C. Amick, 03-10-2003 14:27:30  
Sounds like a pretty brilliant idea to me... I didn't realize that the brake balls weren't already stainless.

Let me know what size you buy, as I've got two sets of brakes to redo.

-Schotte



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L.Lamp

03-10-2003 21:27:12




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 Re: Re: Why wouldn't this work? in reply to Mike Schotte, 03-10-2003 14:47:12  
I have the I&T C-201 Shop Service Manual which has good instructions on how to adjust SC and DC breaks to make them work good. Stainless Balls would probably make them work even better.



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Paul f

03-11-2003 06:05:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Why wouldn't this work? in reply to L.Lamp, 03-10-2003 21:27:12  
I adjusted the brakes per manual and they stop great going forward. Backward is a different story. Backing down a steep grade is interesting to say the least when time comes to stop. May have to get a new steering wheel...I think I will bend this one holding on to it to get more leverage on the brakes. Is there someting I am missing in the adjusting process????



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L.Lamp

03-11-2003 07:17:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Why wouldn't this work? in reply to Paul f, 03-11-2003 06:05:40  
I don't think so. I was so happy to be able to get my tractors to be able to stop going forward, slide the wheel on demand that I just accepted that whatever I got on a backward stop was as good as it gets. The reverse rotation works against your foot pressure when stoping in reverse. Case disc brakes aren't the worst but they were never as good as Farmall H & M band breaks. Farmall abandoned the bands and now they don't have GOOD brakes either.

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