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bcdave

11-05-2002 17:36:40




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I finallly have my 1947 VAO ready for paint. I want to use auto quality but I'm having trouble getting the right color. My supplyer is NAPA in Canada and they have talked with Dupont to get a code but when mixed it is too orange. We've tried the codes numbers from this site but they didn't help. Does anyone have a code number they have used that is the right color. Thanks Dave




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Chuck

11-06-2002 11:14:00




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 Re: Flambeau Red in reply to bcdave, 11-05-2002 17:36:40  
Regard Flambeau Red, I have vac 49 and got paint from Case in gal. #B17672--name now power red, seems to very close to color! you might check that out.



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Randy

11-06-2002 07:34:06




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 Re: Flambeau Red in reply to bcdave, 11-05-2002 17:36:40  
I just finished painting my 49 SC tractor Flambeau red a couple of days ago using NAPA paint but in the US that is Martin-Senour paint. When I pulled the front wheels off(125#s each) the paint looked original so I taped over a few good spots before painting to compare. The paint was a perfect match.
Put it in the shade and you would say it is more red than orange, put it in the sun and it is very orange. Because of it�s dramatic change in color due to light it is an extremely hard color to photograph and not make the tractor look red. I have noticed the tractors in some of the Case books are poorly photographed leading you to believe they are more red than orange. Go to my home page shown as a link below to see a real good picture By George Willer next to a picture of a Flambeau red Butterfly.
By the way I think Flambeau has is a word from France meaning flaming.

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RobertTX

11-06-2002 05:59:26




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 Re: Flambeau Red in reply to bcdave, 11-05-2002 17:36:40  
If you look at a lot of flambeau tractors that have not been repainted, you will see that the color changed over the years. I have seen tractors that I am sure were original that were almost red, others that were orange. Their exposure certainly had a lot to do with how the colors looked, but not enough to explain the differences. Again, I think the paint was purchased in large lots from different paint vendors. It also seems to make sense that the color standards of the 40's and 50's were not nearly as accurate or well documented as the codes and mix specs we have today. I think there was probably not just one flambeau red, but a range of orange red that met the requirement for Case. Today we have the capability to mix one color that will match other mixes of the same code and we have come to think of that one shade as being THE correct color.

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indiana case coll.

11-05-2002 19:49:22




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 Re: Flambeau Red in reply to bcdave, 11-05-2002 17:36:40  
use case power red paint from your caseih dealer. its just as good.



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george md

11-05-2002 21:51:01




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 Re: Re: Flambeau Red in reply to indiana case coll., 11-05-2002 19:49:22  
not only is it just as good , but is cheaper and

does not require anything special to spray .

george



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Alberta Mike

11-05-2002 19:11:17




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 Re: Flambeau Red in reply to bcdave, 11-05-2002 17:36:40  
One of the great mysteries of the tractor world is why Case called their color Flambeau Red. I'd bet that if you showed that color to 1000 people, 999 of them would say it's orange and not red. In any event, I guess it's possible though to have it "too" orange, but in my mind there's no doubt that Flambeau Red is Flambeau Orange.



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John H

11-06-2002 16:55:35




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 Re: Re: Flambeau Red in reply to Alberta Mike, 11-05-2002 19:11:17  
Having grown up when they still sold the S and D's they were really a reddish orange, not red and definitely not orange. Going to ask Dave Erb where the Flambeau Red name came from. Seeing that they have test facilities in northern Wisconsin it may have come from the Flambeau river but will try and find out for sure.

Thanks.



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Alberta Mike

11-07-2002 05:50:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Flambeau Red in reply to John H, 11-06-2002 16:55:35  
Yes, the Flambeau River is involved. I've read that at least in some parts of that river, the mud is a red (orange?) color, hence the name Flambeau Red.



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John

11-06-2002 05:36:18




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 Re: Re: Flambeau Red in reply to Alberta Mike, 11-05-2002 19:11:17  
You are right. Just sprayed a gallon of the auto body stuff. Having never seen the 400 in it's original unfaded state, my jaw almost hit the floor. All I could think of is a state highway truck. It really is orange!



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