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Is Case DC-3 Way to go for me?

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Chris Hibbert

06-28-2002 11:29:05




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I am in need of a good tractor to run a brush hog to cut pasture regularly - am considering a DC-3 with a 3-point hitch. Am I looking in the wrong place? Would you recommend a different model alltogether?

Additionally, does this model have live PTO?




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Larry

06-28-2002 19:32:24




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 Re: Is Case DC-3 Way to go for me? in reply to Chris Hibbert, 06-28-2002 11:29:05  

I think the DC is a good old work horse. I even had a few myself over the years. But,if you live close enough to this 400 it would probably be a better tractor for bush hogging. I know this tractor,and the fella who has it for sale,and it's a good one.If I didn't have three of them already I would buy this one. It has live pto,live hydaulics,and eagle hitch. It doesn't have power steering like mine do,but you should be able to put it on if you find the parts.

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jal-SD

06-28-2002 14:02:40




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 Re: Is Case DC-3 Way to go for me? in reply to Chris Hibbert, 06-28-2002 11:29:05  
Hey, Chris, I looked @ pictures-definitely aftermarket 3-point, which looks OK to me. I don't have any experience w/after market 3-points on DC's, we have an Eagle Hitch on one of ours.

I'd question the tires, looks like they may be weather checked-I'd ask if they were new when he put them on. I'd also ask if the tractor was used on hard surface roads a lot-it looks to me like the center of the tires may be wore off from hard surface work, or they have been over-inflated. If you have to ship it, I'd guess that it weighs more than 5,600, figure 6,000 at least when you're pricing the shipping. I'd drive it home if its not too far-about 12 MPH is top speed on a DC.

From the pictures, it looks like a pretty "straight" old DC to me. If its a '52, it DOES NOT HAVE LPTO & IF ALL the work that he claims was done to it WHEN he says it was done, you'll never live long enough to have to put major repairs into it just bush hogging with it. Remember, when this tractor was new, it was desighed to be a MAJOR workhorse. It was one of the most powerful row crop tractors made in 1952, bar none. It was designed to go out and pull a 3 bottom plow all day, every day for many seasons & they would do it without a "wimper".

BTW, if you buy it, do not remove the front wheel when you need to change a tire. Change them right on the tractor. It looks like it has cast iron front wheels, real common-never seen anything else, but have been told they exist. They weigh about 100 lbs each or more, I'd guess. Ya usually don't need to worry about DC's comming up on the front end when pulling from the FACTORY drawbar. Might be different for a 3-point, but I sure wouldn't worry too much about it, either. A 4RW rear mount 3-point tool bar culitvator hanging on an eagle hitch does make 'em a little light, though. (Another $0.02 worth. jal-SD)

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Chris Hibbert

06-28-2002 15:19:17




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 Re: Re: Is Case DC-3 Way to go for me? in reply to jal-SD, 06-28-2002 14:02:40  
One more for now.... how much would new tires on the back run for something like this?


Thanks again for your wisdom.

Chris



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Paul f

06-29-2002 07:04:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Is Case DC-3 Way to go for me? in reply to Chris Hibbert, 06-28-2002 15:19:17  
Chris: I bought a DC3 late last year (that looks a lot worse than the one you are looking at) to do just what you want. It took a while to get her ready to go. New front wheel bearings (and yes the front wheels are very very heavy). Got an alternator some one had removed the generator completely. (I stayed with 6 volts, just a glutton for punishment I guess) Some one had replaced the original hydraulics with a cobbled up operation that works (after a valve bank overhaul). (I just got a correct 2 valve hydraulic from the salvage yard and am working on it.). Also had to replace the PTO clutches. Other than that she runs well.

Anyway, she does really well mowing I borrow my neighbors four foot brush hog for rough areas and I bought a 6ft New Holland Finish mower. No power problems whatsoever. She soldiers on for several hours in 88 degree weather without a sweat and she keeps about about 30lbs oil pressure even after hours at work. I have the eagle hitch and that is a small issue. She can't lift the rear wheel of the brush hog clear of the ground. (I think the top link mounting point is too low) that would not seem to be an issue with the one you are looking at. One other thing is that the PTO shaft is high compared to most new units. That puts the drive shaft at or just over the max allowable angle (25 degrees) for the New Holland mower. But I imagine that regularly greasing the u joints should alleviate the problem and in the grand scheme U joints aren't that expensive.

Mine is a 53 and has the live PTO that does make mowing and trimming easier. My tires are in much worse shape (cord showing in side walls) but she goes through the marshy spots just fine. She does steer very easily but it takes a lot of fast wheel cranking in tight turns (the suicide knob is almost a must) This is my first tractor but I have used my brothers 8N with his brush hog and the DC3 is a way better set up and cheaper. The 8N doesn't have a live PTO and heavy grass/marshy soil cause it to labor. The Case rides a whole lot better with the 38" rims. If you get here you will no doubt love her.

Paul f

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jal-SD

06-28-2002 11:57:32




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 Re: Is Case DC-3 Way to go for me? in reply to Chris Hibbert, 06-28-2002 11:29:05  
DC's are tough, reliable old tractors. 3-points on them are Case's version of the 3-point, known as an "Eagle Hitch". Its not exactally the same as the then valid patent held by Harry Ferguson on the 3-point at that time, but can (& probably has been) adapted to use on conventional 3-point equipment. It does not "swing" like other 3-points do, which is a plus as far as I'm concerned when bush-hogging. The "chicken roost" looks clumsy & you'll probably catch a fence or two before you get used to it, but a Case w/it is the easiest tractor to turn w/o power steering you'll ever drive. It could have LPTO if its a late '53 or '54, otherwise it WILL NOT have a LPTO. (Check Serial# - all late '53's & '54's that I've ever seen start w/80.) LPTO is handy, but you can get lots of "milage" out of one without LPTO-you'll learn how to slip it out of gear to get a live effect when you want it & be able to clutch it when you want things to stop. You will DEFINATELY want to have an over running clutch on your PTO shaft or on your bush hog if it does not have live power. My BIL & I've got 3 DC's & 4 SC's, so I may be a little prejudice, but I think these old Case's were among some of the most under-rated & best built tractors ever made. BTW, I grew up on Farmalls, have an H & a Super C as well as the Cases. I got my first Case only about 12 years ago & have bought 5 more since then. (My $0.02 worth. jal-SD)

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Chris Hibbert

06-28-2002 12:24:36




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 Re: Re: Is Case DC-3 Way to go for me? in reply to jal-SD, 06-28-2002 11:57:32  
Wow - I wasn't expecting such a detailed response - thanks so much.

Here's what I am looking at - give me your $0.02 more if you don't mind

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1744426759



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