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Case 400 PTO

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Rob Lembke

03-08-2008 08:51:15




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I was spreading manure this morning worked fine for the first few loads. Went to engage it again and it wont turn.It wont even let me move the lever. If you unhook the PTO shaft, the shaft on the tractor turns real slow. Then it will engage. But not under load. I suspose I have to take the rear houssing off huh?? Any help is appreciated. Rob




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bradley martin

03-09-2008 15:42:25




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 Re: Case 400 PTO in reply to Rob Lembke, 03-08-2008 08:51:15  
Rob; Unless your clutch pack is adjusted almost all the way up, I don't think I would go to the expense of rebuilding it. Unless you are doing an awful lot of real heavy PTO work with it, they will run forever. Usually when something goes, it is either a cotter key falls out of a pin, or a pin breaks.



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ihr190

03-10-2008 17:23:35




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 Re: Case 400 PTO in reply to bradley martin, 03-09-2008 15:42:25  
OK, so the CNH dealer said that everything I want, clutches, a new o-ring and a bearing is no longer available. Now what??? They said they were checking with Downing?? tractor parts. Anyway, if I cant get them throught the dealer, where could I get some new parts? Or will I have to go through the boneyards?? Thanks for your help. Rob



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ihr190

03-09-2008 17:13:46




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 Re: Case 400 PTO in reply to bradley martin, 03-09-2008 15:42:25  
Thank you Bradley. Unfortuneately I do alot of heavy PTO work with it. It was starting to slip last fall on the chopper. My manure spreader is also quite a strain on the old girl. It is a "slinger" type. My 770 died, so this is my only tractor. Thank you for the help.



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ihr190

03-09-2008 14:24:39




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 Re: Case 400 PTO in reply to Rob Lembke, 03-08-2008 08:51:15  
Thanks guys. A link did fall out of the sleeve/yoke. I found it today in the bottom of the housing. Im going to see if I can get new links, and while it is opened, I am going to put new cluthes in there. Has anyone done this recently? Im looking at my parts book and it says seven bronze, and eight of the other. Then it says I should get a new backing plate too? I want to order the parts tomorrow. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Rob

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mEl

03-09-2008 05:01:44




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 Re: Case 400 PTO in reply to Rob Lembke, 03-08-2008 08:51:15  
Is this a 400 or a 411B? If it is a 400 the pto clutch assy can be removed by removing the hyd pump, and the pto engagement fork and shaft then the four bolts that hold the bearing / seal plate and pull the whole assy out and put it on the bench, the only thing taking the rear housing off will gain you is a good look at the bull gears.



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bradley martin

03-08-2008 12:09:08




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 Re: Case 400 PTO in reply to Rob Lembke, 03-08-2008 08:51:15  
Due to the sudden failure, I would tend towards a linkage pin falling out. As Don states, this can often result in this type of sympton.



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j Heitkemper

03-08-2008 11:21:11




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 Re: Case 400 PTO in reply to Rob Lembke, 03-08-2008 08:51:15  
Sorry ,Sounds like You Lost the Clutch Pack ,, Doubtful If a linkage pin Came Out ,, No One Could be that lucky ,, May try adjusting the clutch , Do You Know How ?



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Don Rudolph

03-08-2008 12:01:46




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 Re: Case 400 PTO in reply to j Heitkemper, 03-08-2008 11:21:11  
Hard to believe, but I actually had a pin fall out on a live power DC a few years ago. It acted somewhat the same as described, but it would go into gear somewhat, it just wouldn't engage enough to pull anything. Good Luck, Don



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