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311 hydrolic problems

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730 driver

01-08-2008 09:44:58




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I have a 311 triple range with a loader t'd off the 3 pt valve - the tractor was bought by my grandpa in the 50's as his loader tractor and we've used this setup since then. (same setup no changes) I ran into a problem loader and 3 pt won't go down or up - dad pulled dipstick shows no fluid - loader is 8 ft in air so theres oil in cylinders. The 2 way valve dosen't have anything either - even if fluid is low I should still be able to lower the loader shouldn't I (single acting) - I'm confused and we don't want to let the old girl go down. Please shed some light on my problem - thanks

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hobbyfarmerinwi

01-08-2008 17:47:22




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 Re: 311 hydrolic problems in reply to 730 driver, 01-08-2008 09:44:58  
I had the same problem once with my loader on my 311. Got it way up, and then it would not come down. I was very low on fluid. I added some more fluid, then raised the loader up a bit more to get the parts moving, and it came back down for me.



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Joe (Wa)

01-08-2008 12:18:48




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 Re: 311 hydrolic problems in reply to 730 driver, 01-08-2008 09:44:58  
The tractor has an safety interlock mounted on the side of the control valve. Oil can not pass through the interlock in either direction unless pressure is being developed through the control valve to the interlock by the oil pump.

This is a safety feature to prevent the loader or hitch from dropping if the lever were accidentally bumped or otherwise moved while the engine is not running. Suppose you were working in the hitch or loader area and your helper moves the control lever, w/o the interlock it would drop possibly causing injury or worst. When the engine is running it is assumed that the operator is in the seat out of the danger area.

So do you have enough oil pressure to activate the interlock? Is the engine running? Is the oil pump lockout plunger engaged? Do you have enough oil left in the reservoir for the pump to develop oil pressure? If you can answer yes to these questions, you have a problem with the pump, control valve, or the interlock.

Remember that you have SA cylinders and the reservoir capacity is only 3 gals. So if the reservoir was already low raising the cylinders may have run your reservoir down below the pump suction.

When you get the cylinders retracted, check your oil level again. If it is very low and there are not obvious external oil leaks, check the oil level in the transmission. If the transmission oil level is abnormally high, the hydraulic oil in the torque tube has migrated back via the drive shaft seal or leaked by the hitch piston into the transmission. That is very common in the 300 series.

Joe

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Joe (Wa)

01-08-2008 14:26:04




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 Re: 311 hydrolic problems in reply to Joe (Wa), 01-08-2008 12:18:48  
My pea brain just got fully engaged. If none of the suggestions work and you are in an arctic area of USA that gets that white stuff on the ground, think about ice.

Doesn't take much water in the oil to freeze up a valve.

Joe



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VACLee

01-08-2008 12:06:27




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 Re: 311 hydrolic problems in reply to 730 driver, 01-08-2008 09:44:58  
There is an interlock on the hydraulics that prevents it from working if it can not sense pressure. Probably a safty device to stop it form working if the tractor is not running.



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