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Cheap HP Case 1070, 1170, 1270, 1370

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Farmer Jack

12-13-2007 09:03:52




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Since I run a small operation, I can't amortize the cost of a 100-120 hp tractor very easily. It would be nice to have a bit larger tractor to pull my Buffalo mounted planter (and lift it)and run my 2 row potato harvester. It would also be a step up to have a cab for blowing snow in the winter.

I see the Case 70 series tractors for sale quite often around the $5-$6k range and they don't seem like junkers. What words of wisdom can you share about these tractors? What should one check when examining one to purchase. What are their strong and weak points?

Thanks,

Jack

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ihr190

12-15-2007 08:21:51




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 Re: Cheap HP Case 1070, 1170, 1270, 1370 in reply to Farmer Jack, 12-13-2007 09:03:52  
The Case 70 series were/are good tractors from the start. As said before, properly used and maintained, the powershifts will last a very long time.I was talking to my service manager at the dealer I deal with and he said while it is not cheap to overhaul the RPS, can you get 20-25 years out of it again? "Certainly" was his answer, properly maintained and used ofcourse. Many of them still have not been opened up, although they may not have that many hours on them even after 30-39 years of use on them. My 770 has not yet been touched, and has a broken tach with 6877 hrs. Keep in mind, anyone that doesnt like any color for any reason can find a way to put down that particular brand or model.

That being said, I was raised with IH, still have it, and it has been good to me. I bought my 770 two years ago, and yes I put some money into it, but it has been a great tractor. I will be buying another, a 1570 as soon as I am done with the tax man. The 70 series, in my opinion, are very good machines for the money.Also, as said earlier, pretty good on fuel. It would be better to get one with an eight speed manual if you can find one. An 1175 is one of Case"s best. Like anything, if you can find one that is not abused, a very good brand and size to have.

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Scott in SF

12-14-2007 16:04:28




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 Re: Cheap HP Case 1070, 1170, 1270, 1370 in reply to Farmer Jack, 12-13-2007 09:03:52  
If my 1030 ever breaks, and it has given no problems since it was new in 1968 and I was 7, I am going upgrade to a 1070.



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mEl

12-14-2007 03:15:17




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 Re: Cheap HP Case 1070, 1170, 1270, 1370 in reply to Farmer Jack, 12-13-2007 09:03:52  
Farmer Jack,, To answer your question directly, the rps 34 used in the case tractors was a (R) ange (P) ower (S) hift with (3) powershifs fwd plus reverse in each except 4th gear position except the very early ones which had all four ( to fast in 4, locked out later years)for safety. It had a (4) speed manual shift gearbox behind the PS unit. Hence the RPS 34 designation. They are a well built unit and very long lifed. One 970 in particular had 7700 hrs when the local farmer packed up and moved to Idaho for N Central Pa where I live, This was a very early tractor without even the expander update behind the early piston seal configuration,never split while in my care, also was equipped with a M&W turbo setup and made good power There were incidences of bolt breakage in the c2-c-3 clutch pack which were changed to larger bolts in later series tractors. They advertised effecieny of power transfer over JD, The later series access the clutch pacs through the bell housing opening, early required trans top removal to access cap screws that held c2 -c3 carrier in place. There is much truth in the fact that parts are getting up there in cost, but if filters were changed at least yearly and recommended oil was used and changed at recommended intervals ps life was good, dirty pilot spools are the most common complaint and can cause clutch plate warpage and consequent failure, caused by sludge and debris getting by plugged filters or someone inadvertantly throwing the bypass valves away with the old discarded filters, seen that on several occasions. this post is getting long so if you want more info please ask, we"ll break it into chunks of info

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Farmer Jack

12-14-2007 17:50:15




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 Re: Cheap HP Case 1070, 1170, 1270, 1370 in reply to mEl, 12-14-2007 03:15:17  
I would appreciate learning more about these machines.

Thanks,

Jack



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doug in illinois

12-14-2007 17:28:14




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 Re: Cheap HP Case 1070, 1170, 1270, 1370 in reply to mEl, 12-14-2007 03:15:17  
Probably going to upset farmer jack with this, but I just committed to buy a 1973 1370 for 3500.00 I asked my local Case mechanic what was likely to be wrong with it at that age. He said the powershift clutch pack was assembled with 3/8 bolts in some, but by now if they hadn't been replaced with the newer 1/2 bolt pack, on a 6000 hour I just bought, that it wouldn't be working right anymore. He did also say that if the tractor wasn't 300 miles from home, he would like to yank the PTO housing out and be able to examine all the gears thru the housing. He said figure on being able to catch 20 gallon of Hytran, and change the hydraulic filter if you do that with a GENUINE Case-IH filter, no Baldwin especially. DOUG

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farmdad

12-13-2007 18:30:24




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 Re: Cheap HP Case 1070, 1170, 1270, 1370 in reply to Farmer Jack, 12-13-2007 09:03:52  
The 70 series powershifts are fine. I"ve had 1070"s since 1970 and a 1570 since 1978. The 15 has done nothing but heavy tillage. Had no powershift problems with any of them. If you need a float position on the remote hydraulics, then you will have to go to a 90 series. For the difference in the hydraulics alone I would get a 90 series, plus the cab is quieter and batteries are easier to access. But I agree with you about the 70 series being cheap power plus fuel efficient.

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Dairy Farmer in WI

12-13-2007 18:21:06




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 Re: Cheap HP Case 1070, 1170, 1270, 1370 in reply to Farmer Jack, 12-13-2007 09:03:52  
i got a 970 and a 1070. they are both powershifts and i have never had a problem with them. Just make sure, that if you live in places with cold winters, that you drain teh water traps and maybe even the whole tank of fuel before it gets cold. also change fuel filters in the fall too! very important that you do those. otherwise you will have problems. i forgot to drain the water trap on teh 970 and now i got ice build up and it will stop running somethimes. those powershifts hold up well if you don't soup the engine up to extremes. all my clutch packs and everything are new in the 970 but that was because my PTO clutch was slipping and i told the dealer just to replace them. they were getting down there. otherwise i have never had any problems with them. heat ain the best in the business but if you let the tractor warm up and shut the cab door, it gets warm in there.
DF in WI

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casefarmer

12-13-2007 15:57:08




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 Re: Cheap HP Case 1070, 1170, 1270, 1370 in reply to Farmer Jack, 12-13-2007 09:03:52  
70 series Case tractors 100-150 horsepower are very well made and cheap. If you can stay away from the powershift. I would get an 1175(about 126 horsepower). It would have a standard 8 speed transmition, which are very heavy duty and reliable. Plus if you ever needed more power you could turn it up to about 150 hp with no trouble. Goodluck



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Farmer Jack

12-13-2007 16:01:41




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 Re: Cheap HP Case 1070, 1170, 1270, 1370 in reply to casefarmer, 12-13-2007 15:57:08  
Are the powershifts unreliable or parts hard to come by/expensive. How different are they from a power shift perspective to a Deere?

Thanks,



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Don Rudolph

12-13-2007 20:11:29




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 Re: Cheap HP Case 1070, 1170, 1270, 1370 in reply to Farmer Jack, 12-13-2007 16:01:41  
Generally the powershifts are pretty reliable, however, they can get expensive real fast if something goes wrong. I would suggest a 1070 or 1175 w/ the straight 8 speed tranny. Absolutely bullet proof and with that torque you really don't need to downshift much anyway. Good Luck!



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