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Looking for an 830 expert.

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Larry's Son-in-

11-13-2007 18:26:22




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I helped my Father-in-law buy an 830 Diesel on e-bay. Tractor is tagged as S/N 8169110 so it should be an early 1961. My Father-in-law is disappointed because the Dual-Range only has one lever, not two like the original '61 that he had. He also says the fuel tank is an "old style" which has a full raised lid, not flat like his '61 had. He believes it might be a '58 or '59 - 800 series. The seller says the differences are because it's an early '61.
Anyone know who's right?

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iluvcase

11-15-2007 19:44:26




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to Larry's Son-in-law, 11-13-2007 18:26:22  
prior to serial # 8168800 730 & 830's used a left hand mounted power steering pump just like the 400's ;700's & 800's did. As for your tranny shifter anybody could have changed it to whatever style they liked.... your tractor was originally built with only one shifter....the double shifter models were first produced with serial #8173401. I prefer the ol' single stick one myself...as we had both kinds on the farm. I personally think it's faster and easier to shift than the double stickers....but that's just my opinion and there are many folks out there that see it differently.

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Larrys Son-in-law

11-16-2007 16:53:36




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to iluvcase, 11-15-2007 19:44:26  
Thanks much for the information.

May I ask how you know the S/N cut-offs?



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iluvcase

11-16-2007 17:30:50




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to Larrys Son-in-law, 11-16-2007 16:53:36  
I have a 730-830 parts manual and also some factory (Decision Memorandum Information) that i sifted through to find this info for you. You are very welcome for the info. It is nice to help out when a person can....no one can know everything....although i've seen some that claim to. Good luck with your new Case.



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INCase

11-15-2007 06:26:12




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to Larry's Son-in-law, 11-13-2007 18:26:22  
I"m not positive but I thought the 1960"s had the single stick and the 61"s went to 2. My 61 has 2 and the newer seat but it is also a later 61. Does it have the full square gages? Those were on 61"s and 62"s (Autolite). Does the serial number stamped in the left side of the block match the tag? If its not an 830 in 830 clothes it could be a 700 as it is not a Case-o-matic. The casting number on the block and heads can tell you exactly what engine you"ve got. Good luck.

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LarryNeohiocase

11-14-2007 05:36:43




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to Larry's Son-in-law, 11-13-2007 18:26:22  
Larry,
What exactly are you looking for in a fuel tank? I have an 831C that I'm about to start parting out and may have something that you can bolt right on?
Larry



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davediehl@hotmail.com

11-13-2007 20:38:47




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to Larry's Son-in-law, 11-13-2007 18:26:22  
The ohiolandcompany (Jeff and Sherry) is not the best of reputable sellers. I bought a 6 bottom plow last year with the understanding that there was no welds and no problems. As I arrived and promptly paid with cash 4 days after the auction end, he loaded the item and said he had a family emergency that he needed to leave immediately. Before I even stepped on the trailer to start securing the load, he was gone. I found welds, a sprung bottom and a bolt that was welded into the steering arm. Needless to say I was not happy, but there was no cell numbers and no answer at his home. I had no option but to travel back home with no way to unload the item where I was. Plus the fact that I'd probably never see the cash again. I went home to deal with the purchase the best I could. After 400 more dollars and several emails, I gained nothing except making repairs to the plow. I left feedback which was positive at the time and a listing of "Never again" in the comment section. He said a week later that he would be happy to refund if I brought the plow back. He said I was unreasonable after 4 weeks when the first email was less than 3 hours after I got home. 28 days in Feb and he was not smart enough to count days since purchase. Since I had already paid 300 bucks for the shipment, I was not about to dump another 300 to send it back. I figured I'd make darn sure everyone knew how much of a liar he is. He claims to be the owner of all these items he sells and used them on his farm. The auction numbers are still on most of what I say next to the pole barn, and they don't make farms big enough to own 300 tractors a year and 200 combines. His buddy "caseandmassey" bids most of his items up to meet his minimums. He may be going by a different name now, you would need to look at current auctions and the name of the first bidder.

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D-C-741

11-16-2007 09:17:32




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to davediehl@hotmail.com, 11-13-2007 20:38:47  
As I rember aren"t these the same sellers that told a E-BAY buyer that they had no idea what happened to the TRACTOR he Bought through E-BAY he Payed for and had made Arangements to pick it up after the bad winter weather was over! I think it was a Massy Harris 333 and had paid over $3000 for it!



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davediehl@hotmail.com

11-16-2007 10:05:43




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to D-C-741, 11-16-2007 09:17:32  
They are the ones. They claim to have owned the items they are selling and have used them on their farms. I would suspect items had been used on the farm, maybe for one day. But they definitly are not knowledgeable on what they are selling. Plus the fact on the day I was there, the items all had chalk auction numbers on the equipment. They sold 4 plows within a week of mine. You can tell a bad seller by the comments he leaves after receiving bad feedback. If he points a finger and claims its not his problem repeatedly, then I'd look for another item and another seller. A good seller will be the first to leave feedback, he's the one to initiate the sale. The buyer should leave feedback once the item is received. I guess you learn alot as you travel through life.

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Larrys Son-in-law

11-14-2007 02:54:53




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to davediehl@hotmail.com, 11-13-2007 20:38:47  
Thanks for the information Dave, we're still trying to sort things out. Fortunately I haven't left feedback yet.



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comfortking

11-13-2007 18:35:01




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to Larry's Son-in-law, 11-13-2007 18:26:22  
Everthing you mention is true for an early 830. Your 830 has the powersteering pump on the right that is a true sign of an 830. the first ones had the single gear stick and the wrap around seat. The fuel tank is also right for an early 830. It is a nice looking tractor that you bought.



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Larrys Son-in-law

11-13-2007 18:54:23




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to comfortking, 11-13-2007 18:35:01  
comfortking,
Thanks for the quick reply. Does it make sense that those changes were made during the '61 model year, and that my Father-in-law's original '61 would have had the twin sticks, and "new" fuel tank?
I had another listing that I was watching that had a good picture of the "new" fuel tank.

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comfortking

11-13-2007 18:41:01




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to comfortking, 11-13-2007 18:35:01  
I forgot to mention that the shifter from a twin stick will fit in this tractor all you need is a donor tractor as you will need top cover and sticks and forks. It can be changed in two hours or less.



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Larrys Son-in-law

11-13-2007 18:58:24




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to comfortking, 11-13-2007 18:41:01  
I actually have a "donor" for the twin sticks which is a '61 gas powered 830. We were already planning on swapping the front end on the gas powered for the Swartz front end on the diesel he just bought.
Can't help him out with the fuel tank though.



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mole

11-14-2007 12:41:07




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to Larrys Son-in-law, 11-13-2007 18:58:24  
If you are swapping front ends, are you going to be using the schwartz wide front then? I might be interested if you aren't.



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Larrys Son-in-law

11-14-2007 16:01:25




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to mole, 11-14-2007 12:41:07  
Sorry, we're planning to put the Schwartz back on the Gas 830.



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comfortking

11-14-2007 04:19:12




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 Re: Looking for an 830 expert. in reply to Larrys Son-in-law, 11-13-2007 18:58:24  
Larry, If your gas has the right fuel cap you have two choices, First choice is to remove the filler assembly from the gas tank and mount it on the diesel tank. Second choice is o take sediment bowl from diesel tank and have it mounted on the gas tank you also need to transfer the return line fitting from the diesel tank to the gas. I know all of this as we just built a diesel from a gas so we could have twins. The other eagle hitch lift arms were different on the later low tins also

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