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Bob Smith

10-26-2007 19:09:47




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Inherited a VAC from my Father-In-Law and have been working on it to bring it back to a dependable tractor.
He had owned the tractor for 25 years and I don't think he ever spent a single dollar on the old thing, never changed the plugs, Wire brushed them, I dont think it ever had an oil change, tranny had a leak so it got regular additions of used motor oil out of his car .
12 years ago I became part of the family and being a tractor guy I spent some money on the old thing, plugs wires cap ect. But still had a miss, Father-In-Law said it always did so I left it at that.
He was always kind of strange about it so I didn't mess with it a lot over the last 12 years but now it has been given to me and I have started fixing it up.
First thing I found was that for all the neglect it was a really sound piece.
Found miss was bad intake gasket,replaced the wiring that was more bare than not, repaired the hydraulic leaks Tranny leaks and changed the oil and filter.
Tractor purrs like a kitten now, no smoke or blow by.
But here is my concern now, Before changing the oil the tractor was lucky to carry 5 pound of oil pressure, Now after replacing the very thin used up motor oil with SAE30 the tractor pegs the oil pressure gauge over 30 plus pounds even had to go back and tighten up the oil filter a little more because it was leaking at the "O" Ring Seal.
Do you think I should be concerned about this?
I am wondering if something may be plugged up causing the high pressure and if it may damage anything? Don't want ot mess up the engine just when I got it running better than I have ever seen it run before!
I know it may sound strange being concerned about the oil pressure but cant help but think of the old saying That To Much Of A Good Thing Can Be A Bad Thing?
What do you guy's think?

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Bret4207

10-30-2007 06:55:29




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 Re: Oil Pressure in reply to Bob Smith, 10-26-2007 19:09:47  
They're supposed to have oil pressure?! HAR!

I have 3 VACs. Never saw more than 10 lbs from any of them. Somethings screwy with yours.



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Steve_Md

10-29-2007 05:08:26




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 Re: Oil Pressure in reply to Bob Smith, 10-26-2007 19:09:47  
I agree 100% with Joe(Wa). When choosing a test gauge, try to use one that has a simular pressure swing, ie. 0-30 psi.



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Rodman

10-28-2007 20:35:39




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 Re: Oil Pressure in reply to Bob Smith, 10-26-2007 19:09:47  
I have five VACs and the one that I have had since the late 70's has always pegged the oil pressure gauge. Apparently it has not hurt the engine because I have used it all of these years as my main tractor and the engine still runs like new. I now have an M Farmall that I got a year ago and when I went through the engine I stretched the relief spring because I wanted more
oil pressure in it. I also have several 50's Chevy pickups that I rebuilt in the late 60's all with stretched springs and lots of oil pressure with no adverse results there as well.

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Joe (Wa)

10-26-2007 23:46:27




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 Re: Oil Pressure in reply to Bob Smith, 10-26-2007 19:09:47  
The normal operating oil pressure read on the dash gauge should be 12-20 psi. 30 psi indicates defective gauge, stuck pump relief valve, and/or plugged oil press lines.

I think that I would check the oil press with a proven 0-30 PSI gauge first.

The pick-up point for that gauge is from the block oil gallery after some pump output oil has been shunted to the front main bearing & #1 conn rod brg, the front cam bearing and on into front gear housing via the governor mechanism.

From the oil gallery there are 3 paths (4 paths if you have an oil filter) 1 ea to pressure lube the center and rear main brgs and on to #2,3, & 4 conn rod brgs. The remaining path is up through the block to the rocker arm tube via the center support, lubing the valve running gear and then running off the top deck down the pushrod tubes lubing lifters, lobes and the center & aft cam brg as it returns to the crankcase. The only path you can check with the engine running is to the top deck lube. Idle the engine with valve cover off, should have oil dripping off all 8 rkr arm brgs. Oil should drain freely pass the lifters, stacking oil indicates sludge.

Given the nr of oil paths, obvious engine wear, and the low gpm of this type pump, it doesn't seem likely that a frozen pump relief valve could produce that kind of press but in the absent of a lot of sludge and everything else checks out I suppose it's possible.

Go to the link, click on page G2 J1 for lube system and the following pages for oil pump & relief vl.

Joe

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