69 Case 580CK TLB manual clutch, 188D, splitting t

I am having a problem now with my clutch; Lots of adjustment left, but just get the pedal down to where it has the slightest pressure, and it disengages: There is no "slipping the clutch." The clutch is either engaged or disengaged, but that is not my real problem. My real problem is that the clutch slips badly all on its owm; please do not confuse what I am saying about the clutch slipping and being able to slip the clutch; the clutch just won't hold.

In your case, when you get the clutch and pressure plate out, I recommend you take a look at the flywheel to see if it has a groove worn into it. My first two clutch changes were moreso that the flywheel had a groove worn it that the clutch rode down in the groove. I had never seen a flywheel wear like that, so I did not even look at it, but when I had the clutch and pressure plate rebuilt, the guy told me I should take a look at the flywheel. I had it shaved, and all was well for a few years. Now, tho, I have lots of adjustment, but the clutch just won't hold.

By the way, each time I have split mine, I took the hoe off but left the loader on (NO ROPS on mine), and I rolled the rear end back away from the front. To me, it seems a lot safer that way: I can secure the motor and the loader rails, and block up the motor, and they just sit there without moving. The rear end with torque tube, I support with a floor jack on something smooth for rolling it backwards. I have always done it outside on the dirt.

Anyone ever had the problem I describe? I looked thru the hole on the side, and I don't see any groove in the flywheel, and the clutch pads (4 each pads on the clutch of copper or brass or whatever) look ok; my thought is that the springs in the flywheel have lost their tension. But I don't know except I really do not want to split it again, but it looks like I am going to have to do it this winter.

Thanks for any help you might give to me. Pete

How did you change your ring and pinion gears withou t splitting the tractor?

I've got to change mine (66 530CK) and would love the shortcut.

Thanks,
Jason

I have had to be inside that rear part so many tumes, I just cannot remember, but I distinctly remember that each time I split the tractor, I supported the front end with the loader still on and the backhoe off and rolled the rear part away from the front with a floor jack supporting the torque tube.

Maybe it will come to me today as I am looking at the tractor. But just sitting here thinking about it, it seems reasonable that the ring and pinion would come out without splitting the tractor.

Have you got the parts yet? I got mine from mail order; if needed, I could look up the name of the supplier; I have bought several gears and such from him.

Pete