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Case Tractors Discussion Forum
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case 311=300??

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lil bull

08-23-2007 10:27:02




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I have a 56 Case 311 round nose that i am trying to get a front end loader for. One company shows they make one for a 300 utility. Is the 311 round nose the same as a 300 utility, if not what are the differences? I have the wide front end and the exhaust goes under the tractor rear end. what exactly is an eagle hitch?




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JGarner

08-23-2007 14:12:45




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 Re: case 311=300?? in reply to lil bull, 08-23-2007 10:27:02  
From looking through the Case parts search pages for parts commonality I believe the engine/gear train on the Round nose and the 300 square front utility are basically the same and the loader will probably fit. There is a fellow on this forum that is trying to sell his 311 with a loader on it, you may send him an e-mail or reply to his post and he can tell you what is on his tractor.

The eagle hitch was introduced by J. I. Case in 1949 I think on the VAC and followed in 1952 on the DC and SC. This 3pt system was the Case version of the Fergusion 3pt and was radically different enough to get around the patent I believe. They kept it until 1964. The draft arms on the eagle hitch are ridgid and your tools don't flop around like they do on the conventional Ferguson type 3 pt. Instead of the ball joint ends on the draft arms to connect to the implement and having to get off and push and shove around on the implement to line it up, slip the pins through the ball joint and put your clik pins in to hold the arms on, the Case system had an eagle claw looking device hat you opened up before getting on the tractor. Or if you left the little ropes or chains attached to the hitch lock latches you could just pull the latches up to disengage, back up to the implement with the hitch lock tabs contacing the implement's lift pins, open the eagle hitch, lift the arms up and pull forward to auto latch. No getting on or off the tractor. To unhook, the same thing was done, pull the latch cord up to disengage, set the implement down, back up to disengage the locks and drop the draft arms. Theoretically you could hook up to your plow or what ever, plow up the garden, unhook the plow and hook up to the disk and till it up, unhook the disk and put the tractor in the shed without ever leaving the seat.

The system was nearly this good. Usually the unlatch cords/chains never stayed on and the unlock tabs were generally broken off the lock links, but basically without a lot of on and off one person could hook up or drop the tool by themselves. I used this system from the time I was about 8 years old until I left home when I was 21 and some afterwards on visits and I loved the system. My current 630 has the eagle hitch!!

Some will argue, but I think the eagle hitch is far superior to any competing hitch on the market then or now. If you don't believe its a good system, cruise around in ebay and you will see a quick hook up conversion system for your conventional 3 pt arms that looks very similar to the eagle hitch claws. If it was so bad why is somebody still making money with the idea? BTW Tenneco had purchsed Case by the time the eagle hitch was discontinued. Don't know if it was a corp. philosophical change from the old Case designers or just new blood trying to make their mark.

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BarryfromIA

08-23-2007 18:38:38




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 Re: case 311=300?? in reply to JGarner, 08-23-2007 14:12:45  
If you have doubts about the Eagle Hitch system, just look at all the Quick hitch set ups added to all the over 100 horse power tractors.



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lil bull

08-24-2007 04:48:04




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 Re: case 311=300?? in reply to BarryfromIA, 08-23-2007 18:38:38  
thanks for the info,based on what you guys describe I have the eagle hitch on mine, it is a nice feature seeing as how it is not the easiest thing to get on and off the tractor. Does anyone have any ideas of how to make a step or something that would help in getting on and off the tractor?



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JGarner

08-24-2007 08:22:09




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 Re: case 311=300?? in reply to lil bull, 08-24-2007 04:48:04  
John Saeli carries the draft arm step plates/pads that bold on the latch spring hold down point. Just take the bolt out, put the step pad on and reinstall the bolt. Our old SC and 830 had these and it made stepping on a lot easier. They are $38 a pair and well worth the money.

Go to John Saeli's ebay store (Saeli Implement Tractor Parts). His posted phone number is 315 585 9826. If you call his wife will answer if he is in the field and she's just as nice as can be too.J ohn is a good supplier to get to know too. He has been very helpful to me as well as other like Roger Hornbaker for instrument cluster refurb. Roger also does reproduction sheet metal parts for the 300 round nose tractor which should be of interest to you too.

Just looked in ebay for John's contacts and noticed a 300 that would make you a good parts tractor if its not too far from you. Price is right now, but its a 9 day post.

ebay Item number: 180152354800

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