Anybody have any idea what the red part numbers in the CaseIH online parts search site signify? Does this mean they are retired, available, unavailable?? I thought the unavailable parts said retired, but by local dealer (formerly Farmall/Intenational) can't find parts that appear to be available at their warehouse and tell me the "International" warehouse doesn't list them. They sent me to a Case bone yard about 75 miles to the south of us.

Case Construction (formerly Case dealer) is absolutely no help and says everything is unavailable for my 630 even though the CaseIH dealer can get it??

Anybody else have these problems? I see questions like this all the time, DCTom, Jim H., John S. any thoughts?

JGarner

JGarner said: (quoted from post at 13:28:33 08/02/07) Anybody have any idea what the red part numbers in the CaseIH online parts search site signify? Does this mean they are retired, available, unavailable?? I thought the unavailable parts said retired, but by local dealer (formerly Farmall/Intenational) can't find parts that appear to be available at their warehouse and tell me the "International" warehouse doesn't list them. They sent me to a Case bone yard about 75 miles to the south of us. Case Construction (formerly Case dealer) is absolutely no help and says everything is unavailable for my 630 even though the CaseIH dealer can get it?? Anybody else have these problems? I see questions like this all the time, DCTom, Jim H., John S. any thoughts? JGarner

First off they are no longer furnished or active, they have been discontinued. Some times the numbers are actual supplier numbers. If you for example go to the DC zenith carb the numbers they list zenith part numbers in red. No longer furnished or active. I have an old JI Case cross reference that most times will cross manufacture numbers to a case number.

caseman-d

Thanks Caseman. That's good info. I know now that I shouldn't even try to get new parts if the listing is red in addition to the "Retired" listing..

JGarner said: (quoted from post at 09:07:47 08/04/07) Thanks Caseman. That's good info. I know now that I shouldn't even try to get new parts if the listing is red in addition to the "Retired" listing..

The company I work for used to be International, then when it became Case IH they were lost lost till they started getting some Case manuals and were dependent on the computer. Same way with the Case dealer in the next town, The were an original JI Case dealer and they were lost on the IH side.

I tested the other dealer yesterday on a float for DC zeith carb. The parts books and the computer shows only the zeith number. Since he started out on Case he had an old cross reference book that could cross it to a current number. The old IH dealers never had them books and thats why they are lost at times and can't find those numbers. The old Case dealers are lucky because they have been able to to get current Case/IH number change books. Since a lot of these numbers were already changed prior to the Case/IH merger The Case/IH books don't show the old numbers. It's like going to original Case dealer and trying to find parts for some of the old internationals unless they have the old manuals.

Now you have another merger with NH. Now we have CNH (CASE NEW HOLLAND). Even tho it's one company a dealer still needs to meet dealer standards for both to become a dual dealer. The company I work for thought it would be nice to sell NH equipent and both NH and Case parts. Since they had been IH and Case IH for 95 yrs they figured they were excempt till Case pulled there dealer francishe. We still take care of our customers by buying from another dealer when possible. Since all the parts guys are paid by commision its cuts the profit margin. Any ways I got off the subject.

caseman-d

went to case construction dealer in North Canton Ohio they ordered some parts for my 430 from numbers from my parts catalog and they were able to tell me what parts I needed were retired . Derik BY the way I got the engine unstuck in the 430 deisel

I figured as much. The parts guy just didn"t want to fool with my little parts and +/-$50 sale ticket. The CaseIH `guys are nice enough, just have a hard time getting parts from the International warehouse.

Glad you got your 430 unstuck. Keep us up on your progress. Stick a photo or two of your project in the photo section and let us know they are there.