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Joe in Springfi

04-27-2007 04:05:04




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I was wwondering if anyone out there has built a case diesel for a puller. i have a early 830 that i would like to turbo and get it up to a 130 hp or so. Has anyone got any expirence in doing this or building one period? I want to run it aginst the 656 and 560 IHs turboed. Thank you for any advice.




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dboll

04-30-2007 05:11:12




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 Re: Case diesel performance. in reply to Joe in Springfield MO., 04-27-2007 04:05:04  
If you are serious get a 336, powercells were from Lanova and they don't work with turbo's as they have to push fuel through denser air from the turbo and actually a poor injector with a coarse spray pattern actually works better with power cells, case saw the shortcomings and went to direct injection, as for block differences the pump is on the opposite side, you can put direct heads on an 830 but you have to route the lines to the other side. powercells were for economy and field work, for pulling use direct!

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Case400puller

04-27-2007 12:11:14




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 Re: Case diesel performance. in reply to Joe in Springfield MO., 04-27-2007 04:05:04  
You can bolt in a 336 out of an 870 and turbo charge it, that will make you 830 work! It will bolt right in with minimal conflicts. We have a case 400 we did that to and it works like a champ, we have also done other "work" to it and we pull 6th and 7th gear in 6,500lb up to 10,000lb classes.



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casefarmer

04-27-2007 18:07:15




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 Re: Case diesel performance. in reply to Case400puller, 04-27-2007 12:11:14  
Have you ever heard of boring an 830 gas out to fit 336 sleeves, and then using G 1000 flat top pistons to make a 336 gas? I'm thinking about trying it, any suggestions? Also is the 830 block the same as the 870 block?



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newbee

04-27-2007 07:14:42




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 Re: Case diesel performance. in reply to Joe in Springfield MO., 04-27-2007 04:05:04  
what is a power cell?



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charles hess

04-27-2007 08:22:55




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 Re: Case diesel performance. in reply to newbee, 04-27-2007 07:14:42  
Power cells were used by MM an Case in early Diesels. Fuel is injected across the cylinder in a stream into a small chamber in head {You will see a large nut on opisite side ow engine )as fuel is injected it begins to burn an as it burns in chamber it is shot back out an finishes burning. It was invented buy a German named Landini -spelling not right.Today all engines use direct into cyl at very high pressures . Just read 07 engines at 35000psi!!

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1031D

04-27-2007 04:46:07




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 Re: Case diesel performance. in reply to Joe in Springfield MO., 04-27-2007 04:05:04  
I pull a 1968 1030. Some guys have told me that turbos mess with the power cells. I put new sleeves in mine and turned up the pump, now she pushes the dyno at around 140hp. Something I found out too is that when you turn up the pump on a power cell, first of all make sure your lines can handle the presure as they love to rub holes in eachother, and the other thing is if you give it more fuel than it can properly burn it will mess with it. I can beat hopped up 4020"s and G-1000"s. I usually pull in 2nd gear and let my torque work for me.

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Brad Gyde

04-27-2007 23:18:42




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 Re: Case diesel performance. in reply to 1031D, 04-27-2007 04:46:07  
I have a 62 930 that has a upgraded m&w turbo.. It was originally installed before 68 when the previous owner bought it, and as far as any reciepts I have goes (which there were many), the only thing ever done was the injectors and had m&w pistons installed in the late 70's.. as far as I can tell the power cells have not been "hurt".. I believe I am pushing close to 110 out of her (pump turned up slightly when rebuilt, and about 8 to 12 lbs boost) but going to dyno it this summer and wind it up just a little more... no smoke under a load, so we can go a little more (don't worry... it has a pyrometer to prevent a meltdown)

I don't pull, we use her in the field still, and these are just my opinions.. and I am no expert, just saying what I am seeing.

Brad

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