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HP, plowing depth, and soil

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PhilcaseinWPa

04-11-2007 13:14:41




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A lot of talk on here about HP and the plows it will pull. How deep do you guys plow and what type of soil do you have?
I used to pull 3X14 mounted plow with a Case 630 in clay, loam soil. Probably plowing too deep but in an old sod I had to take a bottom off. I had the plow deep enough to turn up a little of the yellow subsoil, maybe 12+".
Now I pull 3X16 with a CaseIH 885. Could probably add another bottom without any trouble. Still plowing deep.
Case 630 ~ 50 hp, 885 ~ 70hp (pto)

While I'm asking, for you guys that chisel plow how deep do you go with them and what type of soils do they do the best? How many shanks do you think I could pull with an 885 and at what depth?
I've been told 5 maybe 6 at the most.

Thanks,

Phil

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Texas Sand

04-12-2007 20:13:47




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 Re: HP, plowing depth, and soil in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 04-11-2007 13:14:41  
Me and my brother bought a piece of land last year in Gaines County, TX and pulled into it with 3 tractors, a 1370, a 1070, and a IH 1066. We pulled Case disk plows (I think D60's or D70's?) with 2 disk mounted on them 18-24 inches deep trying to pull some clay up on top of the sand. An easy 20 inch average. In most places it worked pretty good. The tractors had the horses for 3 disk but not traction. (the 1370 was overkill)But it is a VERY sandy farm. In time I think we can get it looking pretty good, some good dirt down there under the sand. The tractors are rigged up with a guide built from old disks in front of the tire in the ditch mounted to the steering so you can jump off once you get everything set. Of course there are Murphy gauges and safty switches to shut them down if they come out of the ditch or get stuck and spin down. It is interesting to watch them run!

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JGarner

04-12-2007 05:24:55




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 Re: HP, plowing depth, and soil in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 04-11-2007 13:14:41  
These responses really surpise me. We pulled 3 14s I guess about 8-10 inches deep as I recall with our 5 1953 SC. This was in central Texas black gumbo soil.

In NW Colorado adobe soil the SC would only pull 2 14s up hill, but they were pretty steep and at 7,000' elevation the old girl was not as powerfull as it was at 750-1,000' elevation. Did OK with 3 downhill though, amazing what 4500lbs or so would would help that old tractor do. I think is was only rated by Case at about 30HP.

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PhilcaseinWPa

04-12-2007 05:08:24




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 Re: HP, plowing depth, and soil in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 04-11-2007 13:14:41  
Thanks to all you guys here and on the tractor board for the info. Never too old too learn I guess, sometimes just too darn proud.
Phil



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flying belgian

04-12-2007 04:18:02




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 Re: HP, plowing depth, and soil in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 04-11-2007 13:14:41  
Figure 1/2" deep for every inch of plow bottom width. In other words 7" deep with 14" plow 8" deep with 16" plow. Makes no differance what kind of ground you have, plow works best at that depth.



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Patrick Tercho

04-11-2007 16:27:21




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 Re: HP, plowing depth, and soil in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 04-11-2007 13:14:41  
Here in NW PA we have heavy clay, topsoil only goes about 8-9". We figure 1HP per inch of bottom at 4-4.5 mph. My 400 will pull 3-14s in fourth gear around here, and it's all she really wants to see. I have extreme dirt envy with you folks out west!



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jim handke

04-12-2007 10:21:42




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 Re: HP, plowing depth, and soil in reply to Patrick Tercho, 04-11-2007 16:27:21  
I kinda forgot to mention the rocks that are scattered through about half of my red clay ground. They range from tennis ball size up to two men rolling them into the front end loader. When dad put terraces in, there were three that the dozer had to push into the bucket. I had to slide the bucket on the ground just to get them to the creek. When dad started farming here, he dug out two that was all his DC could drag downhill. I wouldn"t be too envious about this dirt. :)

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jim handke

04-11-2007 14:09:55




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 Re: HP, plowing depth, and soil in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 04-11-2007 13:14:41  
Here in N.E. Kansas, we plowed 6 inches deep. Figured 20 H.P. per 16 inch bottom, if you wanted to go 5 M.P.H. This is red clay, with or without sand. The tight red clay made you downshift to 4 M.P.H.
Now I pull an 18 shank chisel 6 inches deep with a 2470. I almost have enough parts to add 2 more shanks. Normally I can run 5 M.P.H., but last fall was wet when we combined beans. So I had to run in low third, which is about 4.5 M.P.H.
Back in the good old days, dad"s big 400 pulled 4-14"s. But the trash clearance was bad. So he switched to 3-16"s. Both plows were mounted, and we pulled them in 3rd or 4th gear, depending on how tough the ground pulled.

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