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930 CK manifold heater

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jeff338

02-28-2007 05:34:44




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I see it in my after market manual wiring diagram but can find no other mention of it. I found it on the tractor but it is not hooked up. The associated solenoid does not appear to be present. Can someone give me the specifics on how this thing works including what gage wire I would need to run to it and where I could get the solenoid? Thanks.




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Jimmie D. Phelps

02-28-2007 21:19:10




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 Re: 930 CK manifold heater in reply to jeff338, 02-28-2007 05:34:44  
On my 1966 930 CK six speed I took the electric heater out of the manafold and put a pipe in with a hose up to the cab. I use ether and have done so for 6400hrs without a bit of trouble. Used it today and the motor has had no work on it for the same 6400hrs. total time on engine 8440 hrs.



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jeff338

02-28-2007 12:15:57




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 More manifold heater questions in reply to jeff338, 02-28-2007 05:34:44  
Thanks for the replies. I am starting to get the picture. Still pretty shaky on the solenoid though. Given it's function I would tend to call it a relay but I understand that it's purpose is to switch the high amp draw of the heater with the use of a lighter switch to power the solenoid. Where did this device originally mount? Can I get something that will mount in the same location? If anyone can provide me a part number that would also be helpful.

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bradley martin

02-28-2007 09:34:34




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 Re: 930 CK manifold heater in reply to jeff338, 02-28-2007 05:34:44  
Jeff, the only function of turning the key to left is to energize the pre-heat solenoid. That is why it is spring-loaded to return to the off position when you release it. The glow plug sometimes will fail but I have had success in re-welding the heat coil if it has broke.



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bradley martin

02-28-2007 06:19:21




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 Re: 930 CK manifold heater in reply to jeff338, 02-28-2007 05:34:44  
There is nothing special about the solenoid..go to any auto parts outlet and get one. the wire from the starter terminal to this solenoid and from solenoid to the glow plug need to be a fairly heavy guage(i.e. 4 ga.)The wire from the key can be considerably lighter as it only activates the solenoid. When the key is turned to the left the solenoid activates causing the glow plug to heat up, warming the air in the maniflod..30 seconds will usually be enough.

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jeff338

02-28-2007 08:11:35




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 Re: 930 CK manifold heater in reply to bradley martin, 02-28-2007 06:19:21  
So the left most key switch positions only function is to energize this solenoid? It is not for accessaries?



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old

02-28-2007 09:44:36




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 Re: 930 CK manifold heater in reply to jeff338, 02-28-2007 08:11:35  
On my 930 theres a switch on the left side of the dash that works the heater. It looks like it came from the factory that way so yours may or may not be that way also



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R Wyler

02-28-2007 17:26:09




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 Re: 930 CK manifold heater in reply to old, 02-28-2007 09:44:36  
Maybe I should hook the heater up on mine. Maybe then I could start mine alot easier. I know it won't start unless its at least 60 degrees and even then it takes a fair amount of cranking. Also why did they do away with the compression release?



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old

02-28-2007 17:32:02




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 Re: 930 CK manifold heater in reply to R Wyler, 02-28-2007 17:26:09  
Can't say any thing about the compression release. But I can say that my 930 will start no matter how cold it is if it has a good battery and you use the manifold heater.



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R Wyler

02-28-2007 17:35:27




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 Re: 930 CK manifold heater in reply to old, 02-28-2007 17:32:02  
Thanks Old that settles it I am going to hook that thing up. I will likely need a new battery though as the Big one that come with it when I got it well I think it may be about dead :>( and right now I am running a small walmart car battery on there!!!! But that is neat about the heater I am going to have to hook mine up. Your 930 is the same as mine I think they done away with the compression realease on the later ones or at least some of them :>( They are neat to have on there.

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old

02-28-2007 19:10:52




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 Re: 930 CK manifold heater in reply to R Wyler, 02-28-2007 17:35:27  
My 930 also has a small car type battery in it. When I want to start it when its cold out I just hook up the battery charger and put it on boost. Then I hit the heater button and count to 30-45 and then let go and hit the starter on the key switch and most of the time it starts right up, unless the battery is low like it is most of the time and I forgot to hook up the charger 30 minute before I tried. But if I do remember to hook it up it starts real good. Those heater do take a lot of amp to warm them up so you need a good battery if you use one

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