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kirk in ks,

02-22-2007 18:15:01




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I was just closing the door on the 2670.
And the door handle broke , and came off in my hand,
I was a little ticked off, it was about an hour ago in the dark as I was putting a can on the muffler to keep water out in case it rained tonight,
So,,, What do I do to get it opened again?
I felt like throwing the handle away from the tractor,
But,,,,,I didnt do it.
maybe there,s a piece that broke off that I can fit to the handle ,and get it opened again?
Please help

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John Saeli

02-23-2007 05:52:09




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 Re: To John Saeli in reply to kirk in ks,, 02-22-2007 18:15:01  
Hey Kirk: Not sure how the door latch assembly is constructed on the 2470. If yours has 2 doors, you're all set. Is there a square shaft sticking out that you can get a wrench on & turn?



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Jim B.

02-22-2007 20:49:35




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 Re: To John Saeli in reply to kirk in ks,, 02-22-2007 18:15:01  
Excuse my dumb question... but didn't the 2670 have the same cab as the 2470? My 2470 has 2 doors. Always a good failsafe if on fails to open.



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kirk in ks,

02-23-2007 06:09:17




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 Re: To John Saeli in reply to Jim B., 02-22-2007 20:49:35  
Hi Jim
Yea , it does and this door handle broke, and came off in my hand,s jim kinda disgusted at it, but maybe I can get it open again.
Kirk,



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Jim B.

02-23-2007 21:03:39




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 Re: To John Saeli in reply to kirk in ks,, 02-23-2007 06:09:17  
Well Kirk, why not go thru the opposite door and open the broke door from the inside ??

As to possible repair... On my 2470 the Left Hand (most used) door outside handle was really sloppy on it's pivot. Causing the operation of the latch to be intermittent. So I removed the little panel from the inside, at the handle area (with the door open) and found the handle shaft to be supported by a welded-on collar that was worn oversize on it's I.D. This allowed the handle shaft to wobble badly. So I simple found a small bushing to insert which minimized the shaft looseness.

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Kirk in ks,

02-24-2007 07:05:48




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 Re: To John Saeli in reply to Jim B., 02-23-2007 21:03:39  
Hi Jim,
I cant do that either cause the handle on right side is broke off too,
So,,,,,,,?
Now,what do I do?
Just go and get new handle,s that have key,s on them,,,?
well , that,s maybe the only way to go on this i think,,and then adjust the door,s so they open , and shut nice and easy like new,



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Jim B.

02-24-2007 16:41:32




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 Re: To John Saeli in reply to Kirk in ks,, 02-24-2007 07:05:48  
Oh, now I understand... both handles are broke off, correct?
Well, I went out and studied my 2470 and learned that the outside handle cannot be removed from the outside by taking out the two phillips head screws that hold it onto the door sheet-metal! These screws have loose hex-head nuts on the inside of the door which must be held to remove the screws. Without the nuts being held the screw & locking-type nut just spin together.

I looked at my Case parts manual exploded view of the door handles and latches and can determine that access to the handle and latch mech is from the inside through that removable cover I spoke about earlier. If you think these pictorials can help you I'd be glad to scan & Email them to you. Just reply with your address.

So, I'd say at this stage you have two options...
1. As John suggested earlier, perhaps you can turn the broken-off shaft from the outside. Since it's 1/4" square I'd try a 12-point socket to fit the 4-point square shaft. If there is not enough shaft sticking out or of the handle base plate is in the way... just grind it off with a sidewinder. The replacement handles will include baseplates. If you do this you will need to also replace the screws & nuts mounting the handle, since they will also be ground away. 2. Use the Ol' coat-hanger method... fish a stiff wire behind the lower front of the door, through the door jamb, by flexing the door outboard with a flat pry-bar. With a bent hook on the end of the coat-hanger try to loop onto the inside handle and pull the handle down to open the door. Good Luck.

By the way... I don't understand why you think new handles with locks will help you ??? As I said earlier, for removal and replacement the handles mech must be accessed from the inside.

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kirk in ks,

02-24-2007 20:35:03




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 Re: To John Saeli in reply to Jim B., 02-24-2007 16:41:32  
Hi Jim
Yea, why dont you send me the pic,s of the scematic you have on the door,s,
and maybe I can use that to get in the tractor and fix it like normal,
that,s soo cool that you have a 2470 similar to mine,
I really like that alot Jim, soo cool,
I kinda thought I was out in the cold with all these older 2WD tractor,s,
But not now, as you and me speak the same language,
Like I like to say to the green guy,s out there?
like the older slogan goes, "Get Tough, Get A Case."
Jim, Does your 2470 have duall,s all around?
Mine does,with the silver rim,s like all of em,
I painted the muffler black like i thought it was supposed to be,
But a friend said it was silver on the 76,s,
No biggy though, they look good in either color,
Is your muffler the original Donaldson one?
This 2670 one has a weight bar on the front too, but no weight,s though,
I was looking for that piece that goes behind muffler between the muffler cutout,
I see alot of them fell off , and the people didnt replace them,
Is your,s still there?
I sure like the sound of that big 504 Turbo six,
i climb up,turn the key, sit down and push the starter button,
and everytime she fire,s right up like it was nothing at all,
I let it set there to warm it up good before I put it in gear,
Hey Jim,
can you put some shot,s of your 2470 on my email?
that would be relly cool,
Ill wait for those pic,s ok Jim,
talk to ya later,
Kirk, Jim, My E mail is the one above the subject box on this page ok?
Jim,,,, thank,s alot sooo much for helping me out on this, Boy ,,, what a blessing you are to all us 4WD Case people out there,
Kirk,

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Jim B.

02-28-2007 22:05:58




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 Re: To John Saeli in reply to kirk in ks,, 02-24-2007 20:35:03  
Hey Kirk,
Sent you the requested Email and those scans of the parts manual a few days ago. Did you get em'?
I haven't seen a reply mail! Maybe your Email link is no good through the YT tractors Website?
Send me a mail using baxters@provide.net to verify your address. Jim B.



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