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frozen hydraulics!

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cj3b_jeep

02-15-2007 12:39:56




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Fired up my DB 880 yesterday to clear the two feet of snow off my 1,000 feet of road...took two hours of running before the hydraulics would work. I'm assuming water in there somewhere, which would not surprise me as the previous owner kept it outside year round. I changed the fluid when I got it, but I'm sure there's still moisture in there. I've heard you can add a bit of alcohol to it to keep it from freezing...any truth to it?

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Rob at Webatola

02-16-2007 02:16:53




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 Re: This should get ya fixed up --- frozen hydraul in reply to cj3b_jeep, 02-15-2007 12:39:56  
Red bottle heet gas antifreeze or water remover is Isopropanol and makes the water disappear and blend into petroleum products gas etc. Yellow bottle my have ethanol or methanol etc. and will eat rubber seals eventually. It will also only thaw not remove water. Run the red bottle that says “water remover” You may need a whole bottle but after its working and un-freezable like not a million below like now then change the oil and blow all the cylinders and lines out with air and get the oil and water out. WD –40 and air vanishes water as it stands for water dispersing.

Ya may have to undo some fittings. Refill it keep it tarp covered out of the rain and it will probably be fine. Any milky looking oil has water in it. I found the hard way yellow bottle gas antifreeze may stop a carb freeze up but to remove water you NEED red and a hypodermic sucker into the tank to get the water first if its bad. The yellow will NOT make the water go away. Both are available at Walmart, probably Tractor Supply, and AutoZone. I prefer the heat brand and been through this a million times running generators 24 hrs in the rain.

Also If you have air in the system and it is low it may do the same thing till the tractor runs a while and foams up enough pressure for everything to work. Give everything a check levels etc and start there. If oil is creamy you know you got water. Depending on if your on the rear pump or a front pump a rear pump can be sluggish when only slightly low. Like a quart or 2 On my tractor 311 B the front oil fill on the rockshaft is the back lift pump and the pipe plug on the front of the triple range shifter cover has the dip stick to check it.. The front pump runs with hydraulic tank of the loader. My 3 point lift (back pump) was slow as I lost a qt or 2 from the auxiliary hydraulic fitting leaking. Its usually uses 10w40 this time of year 10w-30 even 5-20 or 10-20 when its this cold, or if is just low add something thin like 10 wt toll it warms up. I try to just change all oils in spring or at least drain strain and refill clean. Hope this helps Cheers Rob Sandera

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maxer46

02-15-2007 18:14:43




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 Re: frozen hydraulics! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 02-15-2007 12:39:56  
I had a snow plow and the rams would freeze up and dealer told me to put a cap full of the red bottle gasline antifreeze in fluid but not to use the yellow bottle stuff as may harm the o rings or rubber seals, tried it and had no more problems, good luck



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jimont

02-15-2007 13:40:43




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 Re: frozen hydraulics! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 02-15-2007 12:39:56  
If you do a search for Elmer on this site, you should find that he adds some methyl alcohol for just that reason. Don't know how much, but I've heard that it works.



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cj3b_jeep

02-15-2007 14:59:57




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 Re: frozen hydraulics! in reply to jimont, 02-15-2007 13:40:43  
I was thinking of a dipstick heater to keep it warm...anything that would keep it around freezing would be god.



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