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Missing Eagle hitch on 830/Paging JGarner....

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Cary Nickel

12-11-2006 10:29:48




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I was doing some repairs/cleanup/degreasing on the Case 830 yesterday and discovered some suprises.

I remember JGarner mentioning that it looked like someone had replaced the Eagle hitch arms on our tractor..I think I now know why.

After scraping off all the caked on stuff around the lower portion of the hitch, I found some nasty situations!

One side (the right side, facing forward) of what is left of the hitch has been completely rebuilt of plate steel. However, it does appear this was done by someone who knew what they were doing, as the welds are very well done, and the fit is excellent. There is a lot of angle iron bracing under there that I don't think is original, with arms going forward under the tractor to about under where the seat is located. Huge bolts are in position on either side of the tractor there. At the back, on the right side, there is provision for two bolt attatchments, however, it appears one bolt is either stripped out, or too short (I hope! I will know when I get back from the hardware) to grab the threads of the cast original hydraulic housing.

That BAD part, is the left side of the hitch...it appears the "bosses" cast into the left side of the hydraulic housing broke away a long time ago. Only one bolt, of the original three, that go through the lower part of the hydraulic cylinder and into the casting, appears to be holding things together.

There is a steel plate there, on the outside of the "ears" of the hydraulic cylinder, that was bent away from what is left of the bolt holes, and two of the bolts were just sitting there, not really threaded into anything, but supporting part of the weight of the hitch and implement. I was able hammer the plate back straight, and one bolt caught, and threaded into, what if left of the threads in the body of the hydraulic housing...I don't know how many threads are left in there, but I know it can't possibly be as strong as original. I am hoping, as on the other side, that a longer bolt in the one remaining position with allow it to thread into what is left in the body of the hydraulic housing as well.

Here is an area where a picture really IS worth a thousand words, so I will try to get one posted, ASAP, for all of your's purusal and comment...it's really a Rube Goldberg affair, but necessity is the mother of invention, and apparently it has served it's purpose for many years.

My next comment and question is: Thankfully, those bolt holes are cast into a piece that is removable and replacable, rather than the entire cast "frame" of the tractor. However, how difficult is it going to be to find that part? The whole housing of the PTO and hydraulics? I am going to have to make use of things as they are for now, but I probably better start looking for spare parts now, with the future in mind. It could last another lifetime, or the whole works just might bust off next week..

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JGarner

12-12-2006 19:29:29




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 Re: Missing Eagle hitch on 830/Paging JGarner.... in reply to Cary Nickel, 12-11-2006 10:29:48  
Check out this item number on ebay and the one above it from a Case 400.

Item number: 130056495075

Also look at the rear view on the SC a few items down. This is kind of what I remember the eagle hitch arm mounts looking like on our 830. To make the new style draft arms work they had to fabricate the mounting boxes. Like I said and 630crazy reiterated. If its still working use it as is until you all have the $$$$ to put it back right with Case eagle hitch components!!!!! !!

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Cary Nickel

12-12-2006 19:57:26




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 Re: Missing Eagle hitch on 830/Paging JGarner.... in reply to JGarner, 12-12-2006 19:29:29  
I didn't get the rest of the photos taken, as I had to go to Albuquerque today for business and didn't get home until after dark...dang these short winter days!

Read your comment over at the photo. I don't know if you could zoom in on detail to see the busted castings. I think one "ear" on the left side hydraulic ram is broken off too. I won't know for sure until I take it all apart.

I did email the folks at the equipment outfit you mentioned, havn't heard back, though. There are diagrams on the Case website covering the 830, which is nice. I was able to give them the Case part number for the housing. Hopefully they will have one and it won't cost a mint.

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JGarner

12-12-2006 19:12:34




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 Re: Missing Eagle hitch on 830/Paging JGarner.... in reply to Cary Nickel, 12-11-2006 10:29:48  
Cary, hope you read my comments on the Stuck and Troubled photo post. For some reason this morning I couldn't get reply to post. May have been our firewall at work inhibiting the communication. Read my comments, that showed up.

JGarner



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630crazy

12-12-2006 09:20:57




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 Re: Missing Eagle hitch on 830/Paging JGarner.... in reply to Cary Nickel, 12-11-2006 10:29:48  
Just looked at your picture in the stuck and troubled. You don't have the Eagle hitch just the regular old conventional 3pt. So parts should be even easier to find, unless that particular piece was a trouble spot. Just thought you should know what you have before you start calling around for parts. You will find it's a lot easier to get along with the guy at the parts counter when you are both on the same page. :)

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630crazy

12-12-2006 09:48:24




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 Re: Missing Eagle hitch on 830/Paging JGarner.... in reply to 630crazy, 12-12-2006 09:20:57  
I took a second look at your picture, this looks like someone�s attempt at a homemade 3pt. I don't think you will find any parts for this set-up. You should have the eagle hitch on this tractor. You should be able to find the parts you need to put it back to original when you get the time and $$$$. If it works for now, use it. Buy the parts and piece as your budget allows. Sorry I was so hastey on my last post, we had the swinging 3pt on our old 830, so I guessed it was the same. BTW, you can look up the parts list at www.caseih.com

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Cary Nickel

12-11-2006 20:13:49




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 Re: Missing Eagle hitch on 830/Paging JGarner.... in reply to Cary Nickel, 12-11-2006 10:29:48  
As always, thank you for all the info. I finally got to posting a photo over under "Tractor Photos, Stuck and Troubled".

I thought I had taken a photo of each side of the hitch, but only one showed up on the memory card, so I will try the other side tommarrow in daylight...however, the current photo is of the "worst" side...

I don't know if you will be able to get enough detail to see the broken castings, but I think there might be enough there to get the idea...LOL

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JGarner

12-11-2006 14:56:56




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 Re: Missing Eagle hitch on 830/Paging JGarner.... in reply to Cary Nickel, 12-11-2006 10:29:48  
Cary, go to this Web site.

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I realize So. Mo. is a ways from you but 630crazy indicates that these guys specialize in Case and have LOTS of 30 series tractors and spare parts. He says there are loads of eagle hitch draft arms laying around. The trick will be getting the right ones.

My slanted little mind thinks the eagle hitch was and is the best system ever made and tells me to advise you to put it back like it came from the factory if at all possible. I have used both eagle hitch and conventional 3pt and I am partial to the eagle hitch.

Does somebody out there have an 830 parts list page with pictures and part number list they can post for Cary? I only have it for the 630 and that's a completely different tractor.

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Tom Railsback

12-11-2006 15:16:39




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 Re: Missing Eagle hitch on 830/Paging JGarner.... in reply to JGarner, 12-11-2006 14:56:56  
HE should be able to go to the CaseNH web sitr and find the link to online parts to look this up.



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JGarner

12-11-2006 16:19:03




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 Re: Missing Eagle hitch on 830/Paging JGarner.... in reply to Tom Railsback, 12-11-2006 15:16:39  
I had no luck doing this on my 1960 model 630. Hope there is more 830 info since it was made for more years. Evrything I tried to find for my 630 came up with nothing found, or I haven't figured out how to use the CaseIH search engine yet. Maybe it doesn't work like normal ones, but I find that hard to believe.



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