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Farmhand F-11-B on Case 830..

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Cary Nickel

12-08-2006 10:37:43




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Thanks to all for the info so far concerning hydraulics, etc...and to JGarner and 630crazy especially for answering questions I might have never thought to ask!

I have attempted to contact AGCO/Farmhand both by email and by phone, and cannot seem to find an actual person who knows any answers..to the question if Farmhand even exists anymore!! Their website is pretty lacking, and Farmhand's "contact" page doesn't exist.

So I figured all of you know more than them anyways, so...Has anyone ever mounted a Farmhand F-11-B on a Case 830, or have one already mounted? Is it "do-able"? Thanks.

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charley hellickson

12-08-2006 23:57:12




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 Re: Farmhand F-11-B on Case 830.. in reply to Cary Nickel, 12-08-2006 10:37:43  
Hi Cary. All I know is that Farmhand went out of bussiness years ago. Is this model a high lift that mounts on the front of the rear axle or up on the side? As for the Farmhand F 10 hay stacker loader there is a guy called Allen from Ne. who knows a lot about them. He uses them. He has been doing stories on Tractor Talk about mounting one. I think he has another model on a H Farmall. Maybe he can help you. Hope this helps. Charley.

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Cary Nickel

12-09-2006 06:17:08




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 Re: Farmhand F-11-B on Case 830.. in reply to charley hellickson, 12-08-2006 23:57:12  
Howdy Charley,

Thank you for the information. It appears that you are absolutely correct about "Farmhand".

From what I can gather, Farmhand is now just a brand name owned by AGCO, and they make one model loader according to their website. Apparently, however, there aren't too many real Farmhand "old timers" around AGCO. It's just a brand name under another company.

They appeared to be baffled that I called them asking about Farmhand stuff. The receptionist made a comment something like: "I'm sure they are based out of this office, let me transfer you." Maybe she was just new?

Then I got someone's voicemail which didn't identify brand, department, division, or anything. I left a message, but havn't heard anything back. The Farmhand email link is dead, so I emailed AGCO, the parent company, which is also linked together with all of AGCO's other brands (Which apparently includes Massey-Ferguson!). It's been a couple of days now, and I haven't heard anything from them either.

I'm no farmer or rancher, and I don't rely on AG equipment to make a living, but if I did, and I had already experienced a few days down-time while attempting to contact the folks who made my stuff, I would be fairly peeved, I think!

(For comparison: I emailed Case/IH when I first was considering purchasing the 830, asking about availability of parts and service. I got a personal phone call from a Case representative within 3 hours. I was pleasantly surprised. THAT'S real customer service!)

Getting back to the loader, it does look like it mounts to the front of the rear axle. The mount appears to clamp around the axle housing, and big "I" beams that are part of the mount put the upright supports about 12 inches ahead of the axle. Then there are some "swing arms" that look like they mount to the side of the tractor somewhere. They really don't look very "beefy", but I have seen a couple photos now where it appears there are supposed to be some mounting plates up there to bolt those "swing arms" to, but I suppose if the holes on the front arms line up with one of the many threaded holes on the side of the tractor, I will "luck out" and could just bolt it up directly. Or I could just drill some new holes through the arms wherever the holes on the tractor are, and use some grade 8 bolts.

I am just concerned with strength and safety. I don't want to bust out the bolt holes in the cast iron sides of the tractor, and I certainly don't want to bugger something up which could break and get someone hurt, expecially since several people, of varying levels of experience, are going to be voluntarily using the thing for maintenance of dirt roads in the New Mexico backcountry.

From measurements I have taken, the space between the inside of the "boom arms" is 41 inches, and the length inside the boom from the inside of the rear upright support to the inside of the frame where the bucket mounts, is 104 inches. So it appears that as far as that goes, it will fit, and clear the front axle, steering wheel, etc.

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charley hellickson

12-09-2006 22:30:27




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 Re: Farmhand F-11-B on Case 830.. in reply to Cary Nickel, 12-09-2006 06:17:08  
Hi Carey. Thanks. Here is some more information for you. I hadn't seen anything about Farmhand for years and their factory over here in Iowa was sitting empty. My local IH salesman told they went out. I got out my old Farmhand loader book, litterature and I am looking at it. They made some nice loaders. Their Grinnell Ia. plant used to make loaders. They made two high lift loaders, F10 and F11. Doesn't say anything about a B, just F11. It will lift 17 ft. and 3500 lbs. It is made for tractors without cabs. It has two channell iron uprights ahead of the axle. It has an arched tube cross tie between the uprights. Each upright has an angle iron going forward to the front of tractor. What this does is brace it from moveing back and forth. They show it mounted on a John Deer and some IHs,one is a 706. These tractors have the heavy channell iron side frames. That brace goes up near the front of the engine. There is a large flat plate that bolts to the tractor frame and the end of the brace bolts to the plate, maybe a bolt thru the frame and the plate. On your Case, take a thick plate that will span the mounting holes from front to rear and make a side frame with atleast four bolts holding it on and bolt the brace to it. Hope this helps. Charley.

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Cary Nickel

12-10-2006 05:44:43




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 Re: Farmhand F-11-B on Case 830.. in reply to charley hellickson, 12-09-2006 22:30:27  
It sure does, Charley. Thank you. Anything I can learn about this thing is beneficial, since I am starting from the point of knowing absolutely nothing about tractors and loaders...this is my "crash course" on heavy equipment.

I live in Farmington, New Mexico. Despite the name "Farmington", there's not much AG stuff going on here. Mostly oil and natural gas industry. None of the big names in AG stuff have any representatives around here..thank goodness for the internet! The closest Case dealers are a couple hours away either north or south.

I will have to get out the atlas and look for Grinnell, Iowa. My mother lived in Ft. Madison, on the east side of the state, for a time. And I have a good friend who owns a lumberyard in Maquoketa, Iowa. I've visited those areas of the state, but it's been awhile ago...

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Jeff Walton

12-10-2006 06:19:46




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 Re: Farmhand F-11-B on Case 830.. in reply to Cary Nickel, 12-10-2006 05:44:43  
As a kid growing up in SD, I stacked hay with a F11 on a 830 case. It worked pretty well. Hope this helps.



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Cary Nickel

12-10-2006 06:43:43




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 Re: Farmhand F-11-B on Case 830.. in reply to Jeff Walton, 12-10-2006 06:19:46  
Howdy Jeff! If you did it, then I know it can be done! Thank you...

By the way, you wouldn't happen to have any photos of that old rig? Say, with close ups of the mounting points? Would you?????

(Just kidding!!!!HA!)



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Camboted

12-08-2006 16:11:40




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 Re: Farmhand F-11-B on Case 830.. in reply to Cary Nickel, 12-08-2006 10:37:43  
With a torch, welder and drill press all things are possible. Measure your mounting points on the tractor and see if they are close to those of the Loader, the main concerns are the width between the loader arms and the length of the beams that go back to the rear axel of the tractor. If those fit you can make it work. You may well have to re-locate the air cleaner on the tractor. Personally, I'd go for a front monted pump and a set of auxiallry valves. LOL

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